need help
need help
ive got a 86 camaro run a heads up pounds per cubic inch class all motor car weighs 3330 with me in it i run a 331 with a 350 turbo leave on the transbrake at 5200 and i want to get it to hook better my lca are in stock location and the mounting point are level with one another iwas wondering if you guys think it would help to lower them the best 60ft so far is a 1.52 also this car just ran a best of a 6.98 at 99.36 in the 1/8 also check out this website www.headsup-racing.com theres a picture of it its the black camaro with black velvet on the doors also check out the general rules for stock option thanks
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Car: 1983 Camaro Z/28
Engine: LU5 305 CFI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: J65/G80/G92-3.23
Re: need help
From what I've read LCA relocation brackets do help in suspension alignment.Best to do a search or I'm sure someone will provide better answers.Are you still running the stock LCA's?If you are you would benefit from aftermarket set,and in drag racing,with poly bushings.Also have you installed subframe connectors?Another trick,you may already know,is to disconnect the front stabilizer bar for better weight transfer at launch.
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Car: 1984 Trans Am
Engine: broken 385sbc
Transmission: G-Force rebuilt T-5
Axle/Gears: Currie 9" Ford 4.30:1
Re: need help
thats a cool racing league.. well for more traction, LCA relocation brackets help.. put them in the middle hole.. and like that guy said, if you dont have boxed or tubular LCA's they could also help.. but do one thing at a time.. relo brackets first..
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Car: 1983 Camaro Z/28
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Re: need help
Since you already have stiffer LCA's and if you already have subframe connectors I would think about stiffer rear springs/shocks.It looks like she is all the way down on the axle stops when you launch.Possible try airbags in the springs as an assist.
The nice thing about the torque arm is it helps alleviate axle wind up.MOPAR guys use the old trick of an axle snubber but I don't know if an F-Body would benefit from one.
One advantage a G-Body has is a 4 link rear to help with hard launches.Axle position is somewhat easier to control.
Side note i haven't seen an AMC Spirit(or is she a late Gremlin)on a track in a long time.
The nice thing about the torque arm is it helps alleviate axle wind up.MOPAR guys use the old trick of an axle snubber but I don't know if an F-Body would benefit from one.
One advantage a G-Body has is a 4 link rear to help with hard launches.Axle position is somewhat easier to control.
Side note i haven't seen an AMC Spirit(or is she a late Gremlin)on a track in a long time.
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Car: 1984 Trans Am
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Transmission: G-Force rebuilt T-5
Axle/Gears: Currie 9" Ford 4.30:1
Re: need help
airbags, LCA brackets and possibly stiffer springs.. it will lift the rear instead of squating like yours does.. squat is not a desired action.. the airbags should give it a stiffer rear so maybe no need for springs.. but definetly LCA brackets.. my car used to sit like yours and after the brackets, it comes off about ride height.. Trending Topics
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thanks guys i do have frame connectors and a 12 point cage will try the air bags and lca brackets is there any thing to how high or low the end of the torque arm is mounted to the cross member mine is adjustable its in stock location now ive been told the lower it is mounted the more bite you will have thanks mike ps if any of guys get around northern missouri you should stop and check out this track no dail ins first one to the end wins there are some really fast cars for what they are allowed in the rules thanks mike
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Car: 84' Monte
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700-r4
Axle/Gears: ferd 9" posi 3.50 gears
Re: need help
By lowering the torque arm, using relocation brackets and shortening the torque arm you are changing the instant center of your rear suspension. A quick explanation of this theory is that the instant center is the point on the chassis that the rear axle torque is pushing on when you launch the car. Calculating the IC is a bit complicated and hard to do without picutures, I'll leave it up to you to research on your own.
Basically if the IC is in front of the center of gravity the car will squat like yours because you are lifting on the front of the car much like you would when you use a floor jack. If you move the IC back by either using a shorter torque arm and/or relocation brackets then you will use the axle torque to plant the tires into the pavement and help with initial bite off the line. This will cure your squating issues without resorting to an air bag. This phenomenon doesn't work quite as well once the car has transfered the weight but does help with initial bite off the line, especialy if you are using slicks.
Basically if the IC is in front of the center of gravity the car will squat like yours because you are lifting on the front of the car much like you would when you use a floor jack. If you move the IC back by either using a shorter torque arm and/or relocation brackets then you will use the axle torque to plant the tires into the pavement and help with initial bite off the line. This will cure your squating issues without resorting to an air bag. This phenomenon doesn't work quite as well once the car has transfered the weight but does help with initial bite off the line, especialy if you are using slicks.



