I think that i want these sprigs b/c i think they will really help me handle from the stock ones. But it says it lowers vehicle 1.75" to 2.25"! Now can i make it lower it 1.85" or what ever or does it do what it wants as far as how much it will lower my vehicle? I think that it it lowers it 2.25" that wont look very good what do you guys think? Dose anyone have these springs if so could you show some picks!
thanks
kevin

 

It all depends on how worn out the springs are that are in your car now. If you have stock springs from 1990 chances are they are actually sagging some so it most likely will not drop the car 2.25"

 

Oh ok i see now. Yes they are the original springs with 84,xxx miles on them how much do you think it will drop?
thanks
kevin

 

I would just go with the Pro Kit unless you want your car really low for whatever reason.

My friend got the sportlines for his 2001 trans am along with kyb agx shocks and the car was stiff as a rock, terrible ride quality. And when we tried launching it, it would not hook up at all, the tires just spun, they give very little weight transfer.

I got the Pro-Kit and the tires line up good with the wheel wells and you can tell its lowered and looks good, plus it handles wayyyyyy better then stock [my car had the comfort suspension or w.e from the factory and my shocks and struts were totally shot, I also got KYB AGX shocks/struts]

 

I adventually want my car to really wip around a turn and just buying little things at a time. But i really want springs that are very good performance wise b/c i will also be paying for koni yellows.
kevin

 

Ive heard that the Hotchkis springs were way better then any Eibachs, id look into those. They lower your car 1in like the Pro-Kit i think.

 

dont go with the sportlines, the rear springs are way too short/soft. I had them and hated them

go with the prokit, or hotchkis

 

These springs look ok but i think i want even a little more agressive springs so what other kinds are good?
thanks
kevin

 

wait your sticking with 15" tires/rims aren't you? They will just hold your car back

Get rid of them--16"+ and do it right

Back to the springs---another vote for the Eibach Pro kit---I had a Intrax kit before--2" front--1.6 rear. AWFUL!!!!

I was hitting everything Car looked stupid being that low too.

Eibachs were a lot better then the stock WS6 springs. The car even RIDES better (takes bumps better now) While still allwing me to throw it into a curve at a good speed.

 

Yes they are 15's for now but later i was looking at 17's. But this might help you guys im not to worried with the ride as long as they performe really well! I want like track springs that can take a little beating and really wip me around fast!
thanks
kevin

 

I had sportlines on the car and cut a loop off of them in a fit of anger to get em in late one night.... car sat on the bump stops and the headers scraped on the slightest bump


Right now i have sportlines in the rear and some grey springs in the front i think hotchkiss... sits so beatiful... rides nice too

 

The lowest springs wont always perform the best on the track, most of the really low ones are just for that "slammed" look and not performance.

 

I really dont care if it dosent lower my car i dont want to lower it but mabey a 1 1/2" so you guys tell me what will be some high performance springs if you can!
thanks
kevin

 

We told you, the Eibach Pro-Kit or the Hotchkis.

 

Moog 5665/5662's... linear front and rear. Cut to fit, the more you cut, the stiffer and lower they become.

Pro-kit...

Hotchkiss...

Any of these are good choices. Moog also makes a 5664 spring that's even stiffer than the 5662's.

 

Part Number56065608565856605662Spring Rate420420579639706Load Height11.0011.0010.7510.7510.75Free Height14.63714.89713.17613.15913.149lbs @ load height15281637140515391694


Well i see that the moog 5662's look like their the stiffest from this chart so can you tell me if their good numbers or not? Then how are these compared to the Eibach Pro-kit and the hotchkis kit?
thanks
kevin
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Wow i didnt think it would come out like that.
ok the 5662's
spring rate 706
load height 10.75
free height 13.149
lbs@ load height 1649

kevin

 

I think that chart has the 5662 and 5664's switched. A Look at the wire diameter for both should confirm this. I believe the 5662's are .75 and the 5664's are .7625. I'd use the 5662's, cut a half coil to begin with. That should put you at about a 700lb rate, which is comparable to the pro-kit.

 

not to but in and hijack, but i have an 85 iroc and i would like to lower it about 1.25-1.5 inches in the front and .5-.75 inches in the rear.
as far as performance vs comfort, performance is the top priority.
where should i go from here.
the iroc has an already lower stance and stiffer springs than the standard camaro, so i wouldnt want to take a step back performance wise

thanks for any help

 

Hey Red, looks like front replacement for your IROC would be MOOG #5662 which are kind of stiff, you could come down in spring rate a bit with #5660 and then trim to fit the height you want. This would then raise the spring rate close to what you have know. I'm going to do this soon on my 88 Bird but still researching how much spring rate increases with every 1" of height that's trimmed on the spring. Later.

 

Well the last thing I want is to decrease my spring rate.
ideally, i would like springs that are stiffer and shorter to keep my ride height about 1.25-1.5 inches in the front and .5-.75 inches in the rear than the stock iroc, which is already slightly lower than the standard camaro.

as for cutting springs, i dont have a rotary grinder, or any other suitable tools beyond basic hand tools for that matter.
i have about a million wrenches and socket sets, but if i was gonna cut a spring, it would be with a hack saw lol...
i suppose a machine shop could do that for me though

anyway, does anyone know the standard spring rates for an 85 IROC camaro?
i can seem to find them anywhere.

i found on federal mogul once that the front rate was in the 785 range and the rears were in the 140 range but were variable rate. it didnt list a final rate, or a rate of change of spring rate, so it is very unhelpful.