does this help at all?
does this help at all?
ok, first let me start off with saying that this is my daily driver, i DO NOT RACE IT, i just like to have it perform very nicely, which is why i put in KYB AGX's, wonderbar and possibly a STB this summer.
now my question is that i was looking and saw some sub frame connectors, and they boast that it is supposed to increase performance and help keep the car more rigid when accelerating. and according to some tech thread i read somewhere (although i think it was pertaining to foxbody mustangs) they mentioned that it also helped the body from sagging in certain places, such as the doors and thats why the doors are hard to close in our f-bodies sometimes. now i dont know if this is true, just hearsay really, but i am not too sure if its worth it to buy these. would they be for a non-racing daily driver?
now my question is that i was looking and saw some sub frame connectors, and they boast that it is supposed to increase performance and help keep the car more rigid when accelerating. and according to some tech thread i read somewhere (although i think it was pertaining to foxbody mustangs) they mentioned that it also helped the body from sagging in certain places, such as the doors and thats why the doors are hard to close in our f-bodies sometimes. now i dont know if this is true, just hearsay really, but i am not too sure if its worth it to buy these. would they be for a non-racing daily driver?
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Axle/Gears: 4th Gen 3.23 posi
Re: does this help at all?
Do it. You'll be glad you did. Most agree these cars should have had them from the factory.
Re: does this help at all?
ok...well from the hawks site, which would you reccommend, cuz there are several different designs, i was thinking between these two:
http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/82...arbmr-1-2.aspx
http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/ca...rs-bolton.aspx
one is 200, the other is 300, the first is weld in and the second is bolt on...i dunno but im kinda thinking more towards the weld in cuz my experience with bolts is that they can move around on ya lol.
and hows the ride/performance with this? like what are the major advantages of having subframe connectors?
http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/82...arbmr-1-2.aspx
http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/ca...rs-bolton.aspx
one is 200, the other is 300, the first is weld in and the second is bolt on...i dunno but im kinda thinking more towards the weld in cuz my experience with bolts is that they can move around on ya lol.
and hows the ride/performance with this? like what are the major advantages of having subframe connectors?
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Car: 91 RS Camaro, 75 L82 Corvette
Engine: LO3, 383 Stroker
Transmission: 700R4, TH400
Axle/Gears: 4th gen 3.23 posi/LS1 discs, stock
Re: does this help at all?
You can always weld bolt on SFCs, you don't have to bolt them in. SFCs are by far the best mod and I think (along with a lot of other people) that SFCs should be the very 1st thing you do. There are many companies that make SFCs, I am a fan of the Alston Racing if you weld them in. But I like UMI as well. Do a search, there are tons of threads discussing which SFCs are "the best". But for a street car, anything will be better then nothing.
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Re: does this help at all?
The weld in are generally thought to be better because of what you said and the tendency of the bolt holes to enlarge over time. The top brands seem to be Spohn, UMI, BMR, and Alston. There is a ton of debate information to read on the site to help you decide.
The SFCs essentially add rigidity to the uni-body. When the car flexes, the suspension isn't allowed to work as it should (since it's being pressed into funky angles by the flexing). It is also a preventitive measure. They'll keep the welds in the unibody from cracking as easily.
The SFCs essentially add rigidity to the uni-body. When the car flexes, the suspension isn't allowed to work as it should (since it's being pressed into funky angles by the flexing). It is also a preventitive measure. They'll keep the welds in the unibody from cracking as easily.
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Car: 89' IROC-Z
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Re: does this help at all?
100% go for it. My buddy had his put in his mustang, took at least 90% of the squeaks and noises coming from inside the car away. His car rides a lot smoother, especially around hard cornering.
Very noticeable...and definitely agree with this being a first mod must.
I need a new floor pan then Ill have mine put in.
Very noticeable...and definitely agree with this being a first mod must.
I need a new floor pan then Ill have mine put in.
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ok, at first i wasnt too sure about this but now im positive im gonna go for it...im thinkin about ordering UMI from summit (cuz hawks OWNS me with shipping every time, got a spoiler from them, 150 bucks for shipping, bought a bumper off some company in california, 50 bucks....thats 3 times LESS for twice as far lol)
but anyway i have one other question:
the exhaust, like the y-pipe, does that have enough clearance for the subframe connectors? i dont want to have to screw with my exhaust even more lol
but anyway i have one other question:
the exhaust, like the y-pipe, does that have enough clearance for the subframe connectors? i dont want to have to screw with my exhaust even more lol
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Car: 91 camaro RS, 87 T/A
Engine: 350 TBI, 305 TPI
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 4th Gen 3.42/BW 3.45
Re: does this help at all?
ok, at first i wasnt too sure about this but now im positive im gonna go for it...im thinkin about ordering UMI from summit (cuz hawks OWNS me with shipping every time, got a spoiler from them, 150 bucks for shipping, bought a bumper off some company in california, 50 bucks....thats 3 times LESS for twice as far lol)
but anyway i have one other question:
the exhaust, like the y-pipe, does that have enough clearance for the subframe connectors? i dont want to have to screw with my exhaust even more lol
but anyway i have one other question:
the exhaust, like the y-pipe, does that have enough clearance for the subframe connectors? i dont want to have to screw with my exhaust even more lol
Here is a link to their website http://www.umiperformance.com/2400?category_id=113
they have pics of i believe a 3 inch exhaust without dual cats. a set of UMI connectors and a set of Allstons are my next upgrade.
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Re: does this help at all?
The best clearing perimeter type (to my knowledge) are the Spohns like what I have on mine.




