Are VetteBrakes style wheel spacers safe for road racing?
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Car: 1984 Camaro Z28 HO
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Are VetteBrakes style wheel spacers safe for road racing?
I would like to get some 17" wheels on my 3rd gen for road racing next year and have come across some SS/ZR1 wheels for sale locally.
I know lots of people run wheels with these offsets using the VB bolt-on spacers for casual use, but would these hold up fine for racing? Or would it be best to get wheels with the proper front offset? I'll be swapping in a 4th gen rear so the backs won't be a problem. Thanks.
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I know lots of people run wheels with these offsets using the VB bolt-on spacers for casual use, but would these hold up fine for racing? Or would it be best to get wheels with the proper front offset? I'll be swapping in a 4th gen rear so the backs won't be a problem. Thanks.
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Absolutely without a doubt they are NOT safe for road racing. Plus they're simply a bad idea from a handling standpoint. One of the worst things you can do is keep moving the knuckle away from the center line of the wheel and that's exactly what they do.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Ih8myZ28:
I would like to get some 17" wheels on my 3rd gen for road racing next year and have come across some SS/ZR1 wheels for sale locally.
I know lots of people run wheels with these offsets using the VB bolt-on spacers for casual use, but would these hold up fine for racing? Or would it be best to get wheels with the proper front offset? I'll be swapping in a 4th gen rear so the backs won't be a problem. Thanks.
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I would like to get some 17" wheels on my 3rd gen for road racing next year and have come across some SS/ZR1 wheels for sale locally.
I know lots of people run wheels with these offsets using the VB bolt-on spacers for casual use, but would these hold up fine for racing? Or would it be best to get wheels with the proper front offset? I'll be swapping in a 4th gen rear so the backs won't be a problem. Thanks.
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Two contradicting answers and I'm still on the fence. The guy still has the wheels for sale.
Anyone have experience running these spacers (the 2.25" Vette Brake ones) up front and going through a season of road racing? Any horror stories? I've seen guys use them at Autocrossing but that's a little different still. Hmm.
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Anyone have experience running these spacers (the 2.25" Vette Brake ones) up front and going through a season of road racing? Any horror stories? I've seen guys use them at Autocrossing but that's a little different still. Hmm.
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Of course it would be best to get wheels with the correct offset. However most of us dont have that option so we have to do the spacer thang. Skulte uses acorn styly lugs holes for a better fit. There was a good post a while ago where somebody was asking if they were safe and one of the members said Sure. All u are doing is extending the axle. The contact patch remains the same. Im no expert but I do have a set of Skultes adapters and run them hard with no problems.
Who ever posted that article speak up!
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Who ever posted that article speak up!
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Please take a look at http://www.skulte.com/adapterfaq.html (also listed here on thirdgen.org in the tech section, I believe). It explains why billet adapters are safe, and how they differ among the different styles. Just for a reference, we roadrace our 3800 lb twin turbo Camaro on adapters, and have never had any problems. Nor have I heard of anything from others.
I agree that moving the centerline of the wheel will add unplanned stresses to the steering knuckle and bearings. However, the adapters in most cases allow you to move the centerline to the proper location, since most folks are attempting to run wheels with much higher offsets. The adapters will bring the offset back to a similar to stock location. I'm running the 17x11/9.5 ZR1 rim combination, and have never had any noticeable wear on the bearings. Just my few cents!
Andris, off to Watkins Glen for two days of driving school! Woo hoo!
I agree that moving the centerline of the wheel will add unplanned stresses to the steering knuckle and bearings. However, the adapters in most cases allow you to move the centerline to the proper location, since most folks are attempting to run wheels with much higher offsets. The adapters will bring the offset back to a similar to stock location. I'm running the 17x11/9.5 ZR1 rim combination, and have never had any noticeable wear on the bearings. Just my few cents!
Andris, off to Watkins Glen for two days of driving school! Woo hoo!
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