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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 10:34 PM
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vse/herb adams torque arm.. DOES ANYONE HAVE A PICTURE?

very curious about this part. saw a brief picture of one in his book. does anyone have a picture of one installed? uninstalled? i have looked everywhere!
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 08:49 AM
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Re: vse/herb adams torque arm.. DOES ANYONE HAVE A PICTURE?

this is the only picture i have that i found in his book.

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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 08:53 AM
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Re: vse/herb adams torque arm.. DOES ANYONE HAVE A PICTURE?

It's a decoupled torque arm. Look up unbalanced engineering, they have one for 4th gens. BigMods built one for his car.
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 10:02 AM
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Re: vse/herb adams torque arm.. DOES ANYONE HAVE A PICTURE?

yeah trust me i have seen them and i follow big mods like a stalker. but really i would like to see some of this legand. i have seen both types and am impressed with both designs and belive they work very well.
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Old Feb 23, 2014 | 12:14 PM
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Re: vse/herb adams torque arm.. DOES ANYONE HAVE A PICTURE?

VSE "herb adams" decoupled torque arm for the thrid-gen







T56 transmission torque arm suspension options for the third-gen. The Spohn system does not allow for Hooker long tube headers, unfortunately.



Unbalanced Engineering's decoupled torque arm for the fourth-gen, modified to fit the third-gen with Hooker LT's.










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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 01:40 PM
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Re: vse/herb adams torque arm.. DOES ANYONE HAVE A PICTURE?

That thing is crazy looking. Make for a pretty harsh ride?
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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 10:51 AM
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Re: vse/herb adams torque arm.. DOES ANYONE HAVE A PICTURE?

I have one for sale if you want it.
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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 11:46 AM
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Re: vse/herb adams torque arm.. DOES ANYONE HAVE A PICTURE?

These are interesting, how do they ride and work?
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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 11:51 AM
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Re: vse/herb adams torque arm.. DOES ANYONE HAVE A PICTURE?

Originally Posted by TTOP350
These are interesting, how do they ride and work?
I'm not a suspension guy like some of the others so I can't provide the nitty gritty.

But they work on the principle of varying the effective length of the torque arm. Under braking, they act like long torque arm. Under acceleration they act like a short torque arm.

The effective change is better braking and acceleration. I'm not sure how much maintenance they need though, or how annoying they might be on the street.

Since i primarily want track performance out of the GTA with a little civility I have thought about them. To be honest, the advantages in braking ability sound amazing to me. Braking is one of the stock suspension's weakest points to me even with upgraded brakes.

NM, Forgot that UE has a nice page on why the de-coupled TA works.

http://www.unbalancedengineering.com/Camaro/TA/

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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 12:45 PM
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Re: vse/herb adams torque arm.. DOES ANYONE HAVE A PICTURE?

UE announced on frrax that these uncoupled arms are going out of production due to low demand: http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/index.php?showtopic=17190
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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 12:46 PM
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Re: vse/herb adams torque arm.. DOES ANYONE HAVE A PICTURE?

Crap, guess I need to whip out the credit card if I want one.
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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 12:54 PM
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Re: vse/herb adams torque arm.. DOES ANYONE HAVE A PICTURE?

The BMR trak pak takes the TA off the trans, and uses a turn-buckle on the cross-member. Not as dramatic, but same line of thinking.
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Old Mar 22, 2015 | 01:41 PM
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Re: vse/herb adams torque arm.. DOES ANYONE HAVE A PICTURE?

Originally Posted by TEDSgrad
UE announced on frrax that these uncoupled arms are going out of production due to low demand: http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/index.php?showtopic=17190
Last call for an UE De-coupled TA was in January. The last batch is currently in production right now. Seems from that FRRAX thread that everybody wants one but nobody was buying them so they are no longer going to produce them. I think its safe to say, if you want one now, you either need to find a pre-owned or brush up on your fabrication skills.
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