Shop press ball joint fixturing pictures?
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Shop press ball joint fixturing pictures?
im trying to install new balljoints and i havent been able to solve this puzzle. anyoe have any pictures? ive exhausted the google and the bing trying to get a hint of how. thanks
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You need alignment sleeves to make it easy. So that when you press them in, everything is in line. I had a ball joint press from Autozone that I bought, and used a belt sander to put an angle on the adapter sleeves so it keeps things in line.
You can also take your ball joint and arm to a shop and ask to have them pressed in. Firestone type places. Anywhere you could get suspension work done really. Should be able to hook you up fairly cheaply and you wont have to pull your hair out.
I hate doing ball joints on our a-arms... biggest PAIN to rebuilding the front suspension IMO. That and the bushings... Ugh.
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You can also take your ball joint and arm to a shop and ask to have them pressed in. Firestone type places. Anywhere you could get suspension work done really. Should be able to hook you up fairly cheaply and you wont have to pull your hair out.
I hate doing ball joints on our a-arms... biggest PAIN to rebuilding the front suspension IMO. That and the bushings... Ugh.
J.
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Re: Shop press ball joint fixturing pictures?
i am actually using an upright 20 ton arbor press. do you think a balljoint clamp press would be better? -_-
i think i could get what i have to work i just need to figure out what to use between the ball joint and the press.
i think i could get what i have to work i just need to figure out what to use between the ball joint and the press.
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Re: Shop press ball joint fixturing pictures?
i have a press too but the ball joints kept tilting.ill never do them again.i'll pay someone.between that and reinstalling the springs.....
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Yup your press will do the job. But regardless of whether you use a c-clamp style or a press, you need alignment sleeves. Its the only way to get them to press in perfetly straight. Aside from lots of trial and error and luck haha.
I hate doing them, and will never do them again. If I need them again, Ill have a shop press them in, or I will literally drop money on new arms. Ide rather do that than mess with that again haha.
J.
I hate doing them, and will never do them again. If I need them again, Ill have a shop press them in, or I will literally drop money on new arms. Ide rather do that than mess with that again haha.
J.
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Re: Shop press ball joint fixturing pictures?
just get the c-clamp set from HF (3 sleeves, two step discs with it)
set a sleeve against the bottom of the arm around the bottom of the belljoint and place that sleeve on top of an arbor plate.
press the old one out.
set the big sleeve over the top of the arm, and over a matching opening formed by matching edges of 2 arbor plates.
Use a flat plate against the bottom of the balljoint and press it into the arm. Yes, the angle may be a bit off. You can set shim metal under the sleeve a little bit. But as long as the balljoint presses in, that's what is needed.
balljoints are easy. Bushings in those stock arms are a pain. lol
set a sleeve against the bottom of the arm around the bottom of the belljoint and place that sleeve on top of an arbor plate.
press the old one out.
set the big sleeve over the top of the arm, and over a matching opening formed by matching edges of 2 arbor plates.
Use a flat plate against the bottom of the balljoint and press it into the arm. Yes, the angle may be a bit off. You can set shim metal under the sleeve a little bit. But as long as the balljoint presses in, that's what is needed.
balljoints are easy. Bushings in those stock arms are a pain. lol
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If you have a shop press it should be easy to get them in and out. Just make sure the A arm is shimmed up level in the press. Get yourself a chunk of tube or a big enough socket so it rests on the case of the ball joint and slowly press it in. If its a little tilted don't worry it will line itself up and go right in.
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I think a press is much easier than the c-clamp. Which I use for other ball joints such as Dana axles with good results.
The problem comes when you need to hold things at certain angles, or add shims, or just loosen it up to shift it. Unless you have a second set of hands, its just a hassle. There's a lot to hold in place, and between the a-arm and clamp its kind of heavy.
Also, be careful running them in with an impact. Make sure you use tons of antiseize on the threads, and keep an eye on the backbone of the c-clamp. I broke one of the rental clamps once, might have been a fluke but it sucked. And I completely tore the threads off of another one doing a Dana 30. Ive since switched to using a big ratchet or breaker bar and it seems to go easier. You can do it..just be careful.
The problem comes when you need to hold things at certain angles, or add shims, or just loosen it up to shift it. Unless you have a second set of hands, its just a hassle. There's a lot to hold in place, and between the a-arm and clamp its kind of heavy.
Also, be careful running them in with an impact. Make sure you use tons of antiseize on the threads, and keep an eye on the backbone of the c-clamp. I broke one of the rental clamps once, might have been a fluke but it sucked. And I completely tore the threads off of another one doing a Dana 30. Ive since switched to using a big ratchet or breaker bar and it seems to go easier. You can do it..just be careful.
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Re: Shop press ball joint fixturing pictures?
i made myself a sleeve to press the b/j in (bent some .120 wall flat bar around a galvenized steel pipe then welded). it didnt mushroom or anything and worked well. i also found that a used stock front disc has a hub thats JUST the right diameter to sit the control arm on.
now heres the issue... ive put a ton of pressure on it and the ball joint is most of the way in (and strait); however, it wont go the last 2-3mm and sit flush to the control arm.
now heres the issue... ive put a ton of pressure on it and the ball joint is most of the way in (and strait); however, it wont go the last 2-3mm and sit flush to the control arm.
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Re: Shop press ball joint fixturing pictures?
just get the c-clamp set from HF (3 sleeves, two step discs with it)
set a sleeve against the bottom of the arm around the bottom of the belljoint and place that sleeve on top of an arbor plate.
press the old one out.
set the big sleeve over the top of the arm, and over a matching opening formed by matching edges of 2 arbor plates.
Use a flat plate against the bottom of the balljoint and press it into the arm. Yes, the angle may be a bit off. You can set shim metal under the sleeve a little bit. But as long as the balljoint presses in, that's what is needed.
balljoints are easy. Bushings in those stock arms are a pain. lol
set a sleeve against the bottom of the arm around the bottom of the belljoint and place that sleeve on top of an arbor plate.
press the old one out.
set the big sleeve over the top of the arm, and over a matching opening formed by matching edges of 2 arbor plates.
Use a flat plate against the bottom of the balljoint and press it into the arm. Yes, the angle may be a bit off. You can set shim metal under the sleeve a little bit. But as long as the balljoint presses in, that's what is needed.
balljoints are easy. Bushings in those stock arms are a pain. lol
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Re: Shop press ball joint fixturing pictures?
im having trouble getting the ball joint set up strait. the fixture setup i came up with works but the ball joint itself is being.. difficult..
nvm.. added height to the bases and it worked just fine. ill take pics of the.. odd.. but effective, setup
nvm.. added height to the bases and it worked just fine. ill take pics of the.. odd.. but effective, setup
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