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Old Oct 18, 2024 | 01:32 PM
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Picture of Old Shocks from my 1984 Trans AM

This is a picture of 40 year original shocks from my car. Replaced them with KYBs Excel-G shocks last Saturday. Lot work.
These old units are totally worn out.


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Old Oct 18, 2024 | 02:43 PM
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Was it difficult to break loose the bolts on the front struts?...
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Old Oct 18, 2024 | 03:39 PM
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Was it difficult to break loose the bolts on the front struts?...
YES! Liquid Wrench penetrating oil which I let set for 15 minutes. I have a high torque electric impact wrench. Eventually loosened & removed.
The bottom was more difficult because I was impacting on the bolt head & not the nut. Got them off.
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Old Oct 18, 2024 | 04:53 PM
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YES! Liquid Wrench penetrating oil which I let set for 15 minutes. I have a high torque electric impact wrench. Eventually loosened & removed.
The bottom was more difficult because I was impacting on the bolt head & not the nut. Got them off.
Were you able to torque the bottom bolts to the proper spec?...
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Old Oct 19, 2024 | 09:05 AM
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Re: Picture of Old Shocks from my 1984 Trans AM

Impact tight. there is way these nuts will come loose
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Old Oct 20, 2024 | 11:55 PM
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Been a while but iirc, the big strut bolts are something like 195 lb-ft
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Old Oct 21, 2024 | 08:06 AM
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Old Oct 21, 2024 | 09:07 AM
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Re: Picture of Old Shocks from my 1984 Trans AM

Also, the nuts are oblong & they stay tight. I may next time I have the wheels off to clean, I will check the torquing.
Tkx guys
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Old Oct 21, 2024 | 05:18 PM
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Re: Picture of Old Shocks from my 1984 Trans AM

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Also, the nuts are oblong & they stay tight. I may next time I have the wheels off to clean, I will check the torquing.
Tkx guys
Yep 195 ft/lbs. If not, when you check for wheel bearing play, you'll feel a play that you might confuse with a wheel bearing that needs repack/retorque or ball joint, etc..

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Old Oct 24, 2024 | 03:14 PM
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I was able to torque the nuts to 180 ft-lbs. The hardware is going nowhere
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Old Oct 25, 2024 | 12:55 AM
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Re: Picture of Old Shocks from my 1984 Trans AM

91-92 cars have an improved tightening procedure that better overcomes variations caused by ill fitting parts and crusty old threads. It goes something like 125 lb-ft followed by 120° turn, and final torque must exceed 150 lb-ft.

Your 180 lb-ft is probably in the green if your threads are still in nice shape, although I think 200 lb-ft is what you're really supposed to aim for if you're just doing it in one step.

Also, lb-ft is torque and ft-lb is work. We won the war against the British but they had the last laugh when we kept their terrible system of measurements.

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Re: Picture of Old Shocks from my 1984 Trans AM

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We won the war against the British but they had the last laugh when we kept their terrible system of measurements.
I still like inches, feet, & miles. No need to change something that works just fine...
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Old Oct 25, 2024 | 08:46 AM
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Re: Picture of Old Shocks from my 1984 Trans AM

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I still like inches, feet, & miles. No need to change something that works just fine...
Here in Canad, were were forced back in the later 1970's to convert to metric. In high school in the 1960's, Physics & Chemistry were measurements were in metric.
I am old school and live in Windsor across Detroit & we are influenced by the imperial measurements, etc..So i have to make conversions in my head. I think in imperial.
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Old Oct 25, 2024 | 05:31 PM
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.... And you don't see the irony in how you didn't know the right units for torque?
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Old Oct 25, 2024 | 06:37 PM
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Quick, i prefer the freedom eagle unit of measurement myself. 😆 nobody reeeeeally likes the metric thing, it's just easier to use. Hahahahahaha
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