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Old Mar 7, 2003 | 06:19 AM
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Open Element

Hey,

I'm a newbie as you can see.....

How much gain would do you get by installing an open air element to a stock 91 RS?

I ask because I see a lot of people on the board have them. Would you actually get HP gain just from having an open element?
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Old Mar 7, 2003 | 07:59 PM
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Uh well...more air=more power. So yes, you increase horsepower by just adding an open element air cleaner.
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Old Mar 7, 2003 | 08:37 PM
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i noticed a difference with mine
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Old Mar 7, 2003 | 11:28 PM
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does anyone know the part number for the edelbrock open element?...its for a 305 tbi.
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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 07:08 AM
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the open element with a k+n filter will help you significantly breath, giving you great gains. i would also reccomend next doing headers and a catback
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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 10:32 AM
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im not sure on the part number it looks like this, its 14 by 3
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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 03:47 PM
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Heres mine, '91 RS

Don't know the part number but Schucks had this one in stock.
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Old Mar 9, 2003 | 01:19 AM
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I didnt like the way the 14x3 open element over laped my coil(and I hated the look of electrical tape around my MSD coil), so I changed to a flat base 10" open element from Holley w/ a 10x3 K&N and I noticed a diffrence over the 14x3 with a paper filter.
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Old Mar 9, 2003 | 04:09 PM
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Save your money and just put your air filter housing lid on upside down to leave a gap around the underside of the edge of the lid, then you get 50/50 snorkel air and free flowing underhood air
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Old Mar 9, 2003 | 05:07 PM
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Save your money and just put your air filter housing lid on upside down to leave a gap around the underside of the edge of the lid, then you get 50/50 snorkel air and free flowing underhood air
I disagree with that, it looks pretty ghetto-rigged if you ask me with it upside down. I had it like that for a little while, it was ok but an open element is better you clear up the engine bay by getting rid of the snorkel and it looks better with a nice chrome air cleaner in there. Also, its like 30 bucks to put one in you're not saving much.
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Old Mar 9, 2003 | 06:18 PM
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Does the Edlelbrock Open Element a lot of you guys use, use the stock size air filter? I currently have a K&N in my stock air cleaner, and want to go open element- but I'd rather not waste my K&N and have to spend another $40 on a bigger or smaller one.
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Old Mar 9, 2003 | 07:25 PM
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I never tried the stock paper element in mine. I bought a K&N when I got the open element and have been happy ever since.
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Old Mar 9, 2003 | 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by CamaroUK
Save your money and just put your air filter housing lid on upside down to leave a gap around the underside of the edge of the lid, then you get 50/50 snorkel air and free flowing underhood air
hehe thats what i do now... but its sucking up too much sh*t and i wanna make it safer for my engine.
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Old Mar 9, 2003 | 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by Yellow Camaro
Does the Edlelbrock Open Element a lot of you guys use, use the stock size air filter? I currently have a K&N in my stock air cleaner, and want to go open element- but I'd rather not waste my K&N and have to spend another $40 on a bigger or smaller one.
the stock size k&n wont fit in the open element... the filter for the open element is bigger.
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Old Mar 9, 2003 | 11:47 PM
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dont really have to buy the K&N right away. The main thing about K&N is that they are reusable, and the cleaning kit costs just as much to buy a new one.

A paper one at first will be fine cause that what most open elements come with. Then when its dirty and if you want to spend the extra money, buy a 14x3 universial K&n.
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 10:20 PM
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the part number is 1207 for our cars.... but will it fit on tbi? they all say for carbs.
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 09:26 PM
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i bought the edelbrock open air element today and i definatly noticed a difference.. it looks so much better too. the only thing is i'm not a engine expert and i dont know what to do with all the little tubes that went from the tbi to the air cleaner... ever since i installed the air cleaner today my check service engine light stays on. could this be b/c of the vacuum tubes?(i think thats what theyre called)if anyone knows what i do with those post it up.
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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 06:19 AM
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Which open element air cleaner did you get?

Do you know the part number?

Sorry I don't know how to hook it up, but I would also like to know for when I get mine.
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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 10:46 AM
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Plug the vac line/lines with a screw that will snugly fit into the hose.
and remove the air temp sensor from the stock air cleaner and plug it back up and put it off to the side some where, just make sure not to put it near the exhaust manafold. (the air temp sensor being unpluged is why your SES light is comming on)
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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 10:40 PM
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bryce-91-rs- i got the proflo one, the part number is 1207.

dragons91rs- dont i need the air temp sensor? dumb question but i just wanna make sure that i'm not plugging up something i need.
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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by 87PontiacBeast
dragons91rs- dont i need the air temp sensor? dumb question but i just wanna make sure that i'm not plugging up something i need.
yes. guess I worded that a bit wrong. plug the vac lines, and remove the air temp sensor from the stock air cleaner and reconnect it. you can eather drill a hole in the new air cleaner for it or just put it off to the side. but as I said b4 make sure and keep it away from the exhaust manifold.
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 01:26 PM
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Part number

When you say the part number is 1207 where are you getting that from?? Edelbrock, Jegs, Summit??

Thanks
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 11:49 PM
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Re: Part number

Originally posted by Camaro91S
When you say the part number is 1207 where are you getting that from?? Edelbrock, Jegs, Summit??

Thanks
i bought mine from pepboys but the part number on the box is 1207. the part number should be the same in jegs summit etc.
its the 14x3 air cleaner if that helps any. beast
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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 08:41 AM
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Yea, I have one more question about that one. Is it the non drop or drop base air cleaner the parts stores around here only carry the Holley drop base and I already have one of them I was wanting a NON drop base. I have looked thru Jegs and Summit and it doesnt say in the description.


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