mods, tips, times and gaines?-basic stuff but, I need it for me
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Car: '87 Camaro Z28
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mods, tips, times and gaines?-basic stuff but, I need it for me
hi,
I'm planning to do some mods on my LO3 in the nex half year. I've ordered some parts from ebay, which I have stored at my aunts house in the U.S. till I have everything. then I will ship it to germany.
what I have done till now can you see in my sig. now I'm gonna tell you what kind of parts I will install:
LT1-Cam from Impala (bought)
ELGIN Z28 Valve Springs (bought)
Stamped Steel Rockers 1.6 (still need)
Cloyes Timing Chain (bought)
Hooker Headers (bought)
Hooker Muffler 3" in/out (bought)
Carsound Cat 3" in/out (bought)
New Radiator (still need)
Oil Cooler (still need)
Chip (still need)
Make the Fuel Pressure Regulator adjustable (still need)
new sealings and stuff
so, I hope that I didn't forget anything.
I've searched a lot a few weeks ago, but now I've got a problem with the website at home so I can't use the search button, so I have to write from work.
my question(s):
1. cam: gind off-ok, anything else?
2. will I have enough fuel flow, when I just make the stock fpr adjustable?
3. will I need a complete custom chip or would be a stage2 chip ok (tbichips.com)? I know burning myself would be the best but that would be to much effort for now!
4.will a new camaro radiator be just fine or should I look after a 31x19 thing? I'm often on circle tracks, so I need good cooling!
what else do I have to look for?
and with all the mods listed above and in the sig, what do you think will it run on the 1/4 (now 16.1sec).
and what do you think how many hp will I have on motor/at wheels?
greetings
S!MON
sorry, I saw the "FAQ - LT1 Cam related questions ALLGOHERE " just after I opened this...sorry again.
I'm planning to do some mods on my LO3 in the nex half year. I've ordered some parts from ebay, which I have stored at my aunts house in the U.S. till I have everything. then I will ship it to germany.
what I have done till now can you see in my sig. now I'm gonna tell you what kind of parts I will install:
LT1-Cam from Impala (bought)
ELGIN Z28 Valve Springs (bought)
Stamped Steel Rockers 1.6 (still need)
Cloyes Timing Chain (bought)
Hooker Headers (bought)
Hooker Muffler 3" in/out (bought)
Carsound Cat 3" in/out (bought)
New Radiator (still need)
Oil Cooler (still need)
Chip (still need)
Make the Fuel Pressure Regulator adjustable (still need)
new sealings and stuff
so, I hope that I didn't forget anything.
I've searched a lot a few weeks ago, but now I've got a problem with the website at home so I can't use the search button, so I have to write from work.
my question(s):
1. cam: gind off-ok, anything else?
2. will I have enough fuel flow, when I just make the stock fpr adjustable?
3. will I need a complete custom chip or would be a stage2 chip ok (tbichips.com)? I know burning myself would be the best but that would be to much effort for now!
4.will a new camaro radiator be just fine or should I look after a 31x19 thing? I'm often on circle tracks, so I need good cooling!
what else do I have to look for?
and with all the mods listed above and in the sig, what do you think will it run on the 1/4 (now 16.1sec).
and what do you think how many hp will I have on motor/at wheels?
greetings
S!MON
sorry, I saw the "FAQ - LT1 Cam related questions ALLGOHERE " just after I opened this...sorry again.
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Car: '90 RS
Engine: 377 LSX
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Re: mods, tips, times and gaines?-basic stuff but, I need it for me
Originally posted by S!MON
LT1-Cam from Impala (bought)
ELGIN Z28 Valve Springs (bought)
Stamped Steel Rockers 1.6 (still need)
Cloyes Timing Chain (bought)
Hooker Headers (bought)
Hooker Muffler 3" in/out (bought)
Carsound Cat 3" in/out (bought)
New Radiator (still need)
Oil Cooler (still need)
Chip (still need)
Make the Fuel Pressure Regulator adjustable (still need)
new sealings and stuff
1. cam: gind off-ok, anything else?
2. will I have enough fuel flow, when I just make the stock fpr adjustable?
3. will I need a complete custom chip or would be a stage2 chip ok (tbichips.com)? I know burning myself would be the best but that would be to much effort for now!
4.will a new camaro radiator be just fine or should I look after a 31x19 thing? I'm often on circle tracks, so I need good cooling!
what else do I have to look for?
LT1-Cam from Impala (bought)
ELGIN Z28 Valve Springs (bought)
Stamped Steel Rockers 1.6 (still need)
Cloyes Timing Chain (bought)
Hooker Headers (bought)
Hooker Muffler 3" in/out (bought)
Carsound Cat 3" in/out (bought)
New Radiator (still need)
Oil Cooler (still need)
Chip (still need)
Make the Fuel Pressure Regulator adjustable (still need)
new sealings and stuff
1. cam: gind off-ok, anything else?
2. will I have enough fuel flow, when I just make the stock fpr adjustable?
3. will I need a complete custom chip or would be a stage2 chip ok (tbichips.com)? I know burning myself would be the best but that would be to much effort for now!
4.will a new camaro radiator be just fine or should I look after a 31x19 thing? I'm often on circle tracks, so I need good cooling!
what else do I have to look for?
TBI's kick A$$ man i got 2 now and have had a few other TBI's....
89 RS 15.39@91.7mph. LO-3,700r4,3.42 gear's.sold
88 firebird 15.22@93.56mph. LO-3,700r4,3.73 gear's.sold
91 GTA 14.86@95.78mph. LO-5 ,700r4,3.73gear's.
69 AMX 9.63@143mph. S/s 390.
those are what my 4 TBi's ran but the LO-5 is died and getting swapped for a daul TBI 406.
the AMX is getting the 390 up graded as well rather restorted...
You should oull some awsoem times with them mod's my engine where all high miles...
89 RS 15.39@91.7mph. LO-3,700r4,3.42 gear's.sold
88 firebird 15.22@93.56mph. LO-3,700r4,3.73 gear's.sold
91 GTA 14.86@95.78mph. LO-5 ,700r4,3.73gear's.
69 AMX 9.63@143mph. S/s 390.
those are what my 4 TBi's ran but the LO-5 is died and getting swapped for a daul TBI 406.
the AMX is getting the 390 up graded as well rather restorted...
You should oull some awsoem times with them mod's my engine where all high miles...
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@shifty: I will build a complete new exhaust in 3". Nothing will be left stock.
I think my radiator is not in the best condition. It leakes one time then I put in some "filler". also the engine is getting hot faster than normal...
@91gta: what have you done with your cars?
@steve: I also thought about an intake, maybe I find one cheap.
greetings
S!MON
I think my radiator is not in the best condition. It leakes one time then I put in some "filler". also the engine is getting hot faster than normal...
@91gta: what have you done with your cars?
@steve: I also thought about an intake, maybe I find one cheap.
greetings
S!MON
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From: Cincinnati, OH
Car: '90 RS
Engine: 377 LSX
Transmission: Magnum T56
Originally posted by S!MON
@shifty: I will build a complete new exhaust in 3". Nothing will be left stock.
I think my radiator is not in the best condition. It leakes one time then I put in some "filler". also the engine is getting hot faster than normal...
S!MON
@shifty: I will build a complete new exhaust in 3". Nothing will be left stock.
I think my radiator is not in the best condition. It leakes one time then I put in some "filler". also the engine is getting hot faster than normal...
S!MON
not ,uch basicly the 89 RS was stock sept for the gear swap from 2.73 to 3.42's..
and the 88 bird had 3.23 for 3.73 's only mod's on them too.
the 91 GTA had the Blowen L-98 swapped for a high mile LO-5 (350TBI) With some 3.73 Gear's....
AMX's is basicly sock how it came in 69 it's Hurst super stocker production race car.....they made 53 of them.
all i did was increace the C/R by .5:1...
swapped the 650cfm carb's for the 900cfm 4bbl TBI's...
it went from 10.80's to 9.60's ......
it was running 11.20's off the show room floor on 29x10.50R15 poly glass slick's after getting a set of 28x12R15 radail slick's it dropped into the 10.80's....
so i really didn't do much to hit the 9.60's.....
just miled the head's decked the block and gained .5:1 more compresion,floowing an extra 500cfm......
and the 88 bird had 3.23 for 3.73 's only mod's on them too.
the 91 GTA had the Blowen L-98 swapped for a high mile LO-5 (350TBI) With some 3.73 Gear's....
AMX's is basicly sock how it came in 69 it's Hurst super stocker production race car.....they made 53 of them.
all i did was increace the C/R by .5:1...
swapped the 650cfm carb's for the 900cfm 4bbl TBI's...
it went from 10.80's to 9.60's ......
it was running 11.20's off the show room floor on 29x10.50R15 poly glass slick's after getting a set of 28x12R15 radail slick's it dropped into the 10.80's....
so i really didn't do much to hit the 9.60's.....
just miled the head's decked the block and gained .5:1 more compresion,floowing an extra 500cfm......
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Originally posted by 91 GTA Ramair2
not ,uch basicly the 89 RS was stock sept for the gear swap from 2.73 to 3.42's..
and the 88 bird had 3.23 for 3.73 's only mod's on them too.
the 91 GTA had the Blowen L-98 swapped for a high mile LO-5 (350TBI) With some 3.73 Gear's....
AMX's is basicly sock how it came in 69 it's Hurst super stocker production race car.....they made 53 of them.
all i did was increace the C/R by .5:1...
swapped the 650cfm carb's for the 900cfm 4bbl TBI's...
it went from 10.80's to 9.60's ......
it was running 11.20's off the show room floor on 29x10.50R15 poly glass slick's after getting a set of 28x12R15 radail slick's it dropped into the 10.80's....
so i really didn't do much to hit the 9.60's.....
just miled the head's decked the block and gained .5:1 more compresion,floowing an extra 500cfm......
not ,uch basicly the 89 RS was stock sept for the gear swap from 2.73 to 3.42's..
and the 88 bird had 3.23 for 3.73 's only mod's on them too.
the 91 GTA had the Blowen L-98 swapped for a high mile LO-5 (350TBI) With some 3.73 Gear's....
AMX's is basicly sock how it came in 69 it's Hurst super stocker production race car.....they made 53 of them.
all i did was increace the C/R by .5:1...
swapped the 650cfm carb's for the 900cfm 4bbl TBI's...
it went from 10.80's to 9.60's ......
it was running 11.20's off the show room floor on 29x10.50R15 poly glass slick's after getting a set of 28x12R15 radail slick's it dropped into the 10.80's....
so i really didn't do much to hit the 9.60's.....
just miled the head's decked the block and gained .5:1 more compresion,floowing an extra 500cfm......
how did u only change gears and run that? car in my sig with 2.73's my car ran 16.6@85.5 mph have not ran with posi and 3.42's but i dont think it will knock off that much. thats alittle over a sec off.
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harhar, more questions
hi,
@shifty: when it would be that easy
here in germany you will never or just with very good luck find a f-body on a junkyard! these cars are very rare here in europe. that's also why I have to find the good parts on ebay.com. on ebay-germany the amount of items just for us-cars is only 2000 or something like that, no compare to ebay.com!
here we come to my next question: intake manifold. I have seen the TOTW, but it's really hard to pick out the right manifold out there. an edelbrock tbi manifold is too expensive for me, also there are more chances to get an edelbrock performer here in germany, because my aunt will kill me, if I send more heavy stuff to her
what do you think will be the best intake for my combo. should I stay with egr? I have to pass emissions here, and air is already gone with the headers!
I don't really know how high I can rev with the cam, probably to 5500 or more?
how much will be a carb-to-tbi adapter?
would a carb-intake be a direct bolt on (adapter/egr not mentioned)?
a lot of questions, hope you can help (you all allready did
greetings
S!MON
@shifty: when it would be that easy
here in germany you will never or just with very good luck find a f-body on a junkyard! these cars are very rare here in europe. that's also why I have to find the good parts on ebay.com. on ebay-germany the amount of items just for us-cars is only 2000 or something like that, no compare to ebay.com!here we come to my next question: intake manifold. I have seen the TOTW, but it's really hard to pick out the right manifold out there. an edelbrock tbi manifold is too expensive for me, also there are more chances to get an edelbrock performer here in germany, because my aunt will kill me, if I send more heavy stuff to her

what do you think will be the best intake for my combo. should I stay with egr? I have to pass emissions here, and air is already gone with the headers!
I don't really know how high I can rev with the cam, probably to 5500 or more?
how much will be a carb-to-tbi adapter?
would a carb-intake be a direct bolt on (adapter/egr not mentioned)?
a lot of questions, hope you can help (you all allready did

greetings
S!MON
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Re: harhar, more questions
Originally posted by S!MON
hi,
@shifty: when it would be that easy
here in germany you will never or just with very good luck find a f-body on a junkyard! these cars are very rare here in europe. that's also why I have to find the good parts on ebay.com. on ebay-germany the amount of items just for us-cars is only 2000 or something like that, no compare to ebay.com!
here we come to my next question: intake manifold. I have seen the TOTW, but it's really hard to pick out the right manifold out there. an edelbrock tbi manifold is too expensive for me, also there are more chances to get an edelbrock performer here in germany, because my aunt will kill me, if I send more heavy stuff to her
hi,
@shifty: when it would be that easy
here in germany you will never or just with very good luck find a f-body on a junkyard! these cars are very rare here in europe. that's also why I have to find the good parts on ebay.com. on ebay-germany the amount of items just for us-cars is only 2000 or something like that, no compare to ebay.com!here we come to my next question: intake manifold. I have seen the TOTW, but it's really hard to pick out the right manifold out there. an edelbrock tbi manifold is too expensive for me, also there are more chances to get an edelbrock performer here in germany, because my aunt will kill me, if I send more heavy stuff to her

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emkay,
maybe I will find the tbi intake on ebay (even there it is hard to get one for under 200$). we will see.
thx for all the help
greetings
S!MON
maybe I will find the tbi intake on ebay (even there it is hard to get one for under 200$). we will see.
thx for all the help
greetings
S!MON
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Take a gander at the link in my sig for the registry, that should give you a good indication of what your combo will do. Some recommendations:
LCA relocators, LCA's, poly torque arm bushing and maybe bag the passenger rear wheel if you need more traction
Also, the dual fan swap in is pretty easy and definately works great! Other than that I think you're golden!
Good luck
Tony
LCA relocators, LCA's, poly torque arm bushing and maybe bag the passenger rear wheel if you need more traction
Also, the dual fan swap in is pretty easy and definately works great! Other than that I think you're golden!
Good luck
Tony
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Originally posted by S!MON
emkay,
maybe I will find the tbi intake on ebay (even there it is hard to get one for under 200$). we will see.
thx for all the help
greetings
S!MON
emkay,
maybe I will find the tbi intake on ebay (even there it is hard to get one for under 200$). we will see.
thx for all the help
greetings
S!MON
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2453712820
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Intake: Few people mention it here - maybe it's not good enough for the hardcore - but I did a Weiand Action Plus #8000 carb intake - it was $120 new from Summit. But, your LO3 heads are the newer center-bolt - maybe the #8000 intake won't work - I used the older #416 heads on mine - you'll have to check on that - anyway the Weiand intakes are generally much cheaper
Rockers: Summit also has 1.6:1 roller-tips for $99 new - they aren't true roller rockers, but have roller tips - better than stamped, cheaper than true roller
Like I said, I did heads as well, so I have to get total new chip programming done. I might would think with the LT1 cam, bigger rockers, and exhaust, premade chip won't do it for ya. Mine runs super rich at idle, and have to set timing past the marks (over 16*) to get her to run at all.
Rockers: Summit also has 1.6:1 roller-tips for $99 new - they aren't true roller rockers, but have roller tips - better than stamped, cheaper than true roller
Like I said, I did heads as well, so I have to get total new chip programming done. I might would think with the LT1 cam, bigger rockers, and exhaust, premade chip won't do it for ya. Mine runs super rich at idle, and have to set timing past the marks (over 16*) to get her to run at all.
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@shifty: hehe, thx. saw that already. but I blasted my budget for this month
and what I need next is a new clutch master zylinder-arghl
@camaronewbie: maybe weiand got one from this series for 87-up..I will do a search.
and I also thnik that I will need a totally custom burned chip now, there are just too many things that will be changed!
greetings
S!MON
and what I need next is a new clutch master zylinder-arghl@camaronewbie: maybe weiand got one from this series for 87-up..I will do a search.
and I also thnik that I will need a totally custom burned chip now, there are just too many things that will be changed!
greetings
S!MON
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Weiand makes a very good intake that has been tested to work well with TBI. It's the 7525: a single plane manifold that I believe is for 87-up heads and has EGR so you can remain compliant with emissions requirements.
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