cam and intake swap start today!!
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cam and intake swap start today!!
well its 11:16 and i started around 8am and everything is pretty much apart
Intake is off, rockers lifters, all out(not one problem with lifters pulles right out BTW)
I only need help with the crank pulley (extra hand to stop it from turning, and then the cover will come off.. also waiting for tool to take out valve springs....
I'm also going to do my valve seals since the springs are coming off why not right......
whats else.. Lots of video no pics though i dont have a digital camera, but i dont have a weebsite to post the bvideo at anymore so idk
also going to do ultamate TBI mods as well, As well as fuel pressure regulator and the O2 sensor volt meter thing..
what was a simple cam and intake is a complete fuel and performance rebuild hahah i'm havin a blast i'll keep everyone posted
only one problem i see.. with the FPR.. it says drill out the cap do they mean drill right through or just shave away the top so I can turn the threaded shaft ...thanx for listening :lala:
Intake is off, rockers lifters, all out(not one problem with lifters pulles right out BTW)
I only need help with the crank pulley (extra hand to stop it from turning, and then the cover will come off.. also waiting for tool to take out valve springs....
I'm also going to do my valve seals since the springs are coming off why not right......
whats else.. Lots of video no pics though i dont have a digital camera, but i dont have a weebsite to post the bvideo at anymore so idk
also going to do ultamate TBI mods as well, As well as fuel pressure regulator and the O2 sensor volt meter thing..
what was a simple cam and intake is a complete fuel and performance rebuild hahah i'm havin a blast i'll keep everyone posted
only one problem i see.. with the FPR.. it says drill out the cap do they mean drill right through or just shave away the top so I can turn the threaded shaft ...thanx for listening :lala:
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Re: cam and intake swap start today!!
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I only need help with the crank pulley (extra hand to stop it from turning, and then the cover will come off.. also waiting for tool to take out valve springs....
I only need help with the crank pulley (extra hand to stop it from turning, and then the cover will come off.. also waiting for tool to take out valve springs....
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ok i am officially a dumb a$$ hahah
ok i am officially a dumb a$$ hahah
(actualy we are still trying to figure out what went wrong.) Thread Starter
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new cam is in!!!! larks seemj like they are perfectly lined up I did the dot to dot technique...... also TBI is grinded it looks sweet as hell.... alsop FPR is drilled out and i'm begining the wiring on my o2 sensor to make sure i'm not too lean or rich....
chip is in the mail!! oh man this is great lol
chip is in the mail!! oh man this is great lol
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Originally posted by TransAmTBI
new cam is in!!!! larks seemj like they are perfectly lined up I did the dot to dot technique...... also TBI is grinded it looks sweet as hell.... alsop FPR is drilled out and i'm begining the wiring on my o2 sensor to make sure i'm not too lean or rich....
chip is in the mail!! oh man this is great lol
new cam is in!!!! larks seemj like they are perfectly lined up I did the dot to dot technique...... also TBI is grinded it looks sweet as hell.... alsop FPR is drilled out and i'm begining the wiring on my o2 sensor to make sure i'm not too lean or rich....
chip is in the mail!! oh man this is great lol
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hell yeah i did that started with dots at 6 and 12 then rotated the crank and now both dots are at top of gear...
i had to go to the store and put fittings and plugs for my manifold so I finished up the day with putting in the lifters in and scraping old gasket material off timing cover..
so far it doesnt seam that i broke the oil pan gasket and its when I put the timing cover back on that i should unbolt all the oil pan bolts right?
the ultamite TBI mods went amazing... i'm going to post pics to show what an amazing job my friend did with his dremmel.
tomorrow i'm going to start undoing the plugs and get ready for my valve seals and springs as well as put timing cover back on and start bolting up the new intake.. hopefully i'll have everything bolted back up by tomorrow night...
if that goes well, wed i'll start my brakes and front springs and if i get that done maybe i'll swap the rear out of my spare camaro... ohhhh the possabilities! hahaha.. thanx for all teh inputs so far
i had to go to the store and put fittings and plugs for my manifold so I finished up the day with putting in the lifters in and scraping old gasket material off timing cover..
so far it doesnt seam that i broke the oil pan gasket and its when I put the timing cover back on that i should unbolt all the oil pan bolts right?
the ultamite TBI mods went amazing... i'm going to post pics to show what an amazing job my friend did with his dremmel.
tomorrow i'm going to start undoing the plugs and get ready for my valve seals and springs as well as put timing cover back on and start bolting up the new intake.. hopefully i'll have everything bolted back up by tomorrow night...
if that goes well, wed i'll start my brakes and front springs and if i get that done maybe i'll swap the rear out of my spare camaro... ohhhh the possabilities! hahaha.. thanx for all teh inputs so far
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Re: Re: cam and intake swap start today!!
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put the car in gear, and engage the e-brake.
put the car in gear, and engage the e-brake.
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so far it doesnt seam that i broke the oil pan gasket and its when I put the timing cover back on that i should unbolt all the oil pan bolts right?
so far it doesnt seam that i broke the oil pan gasket and its when I put the timing cover back on that i should unbolt all the oil pan bolts right?
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you mean snip that metal thing sticking out from the timing cover?? never heard of that one ... i'll take a look at it today thanx for the info
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i think you are better off loosening the bolts, to lower the pan, with a 1 peice seal, getting it back in without screwing up the seal is a pain.
btw, i take all but the back to bolts out, and i just loosen those enough to slip the cover in.
btw, i take all but the back to bolts out, and i just loosen those enough to slip the cover in.
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well heres my thought.... i cant get to the bolts right underneith the crossmember..... but the timing cover gasket kit came with a rubber seal for the bottom so what if i just pop out the old seal and replace it? good idea?
the rain is hindering my process now but i put my throttle body back together but want to take pictures of the awsome job my friend did on this...
if the rain tappers off i'm going to put on the timing cover, crank pulley, intake and TBI damn rain...
day 2.. going slow
the rain is hindering my process now but i put my throttle body back together but want to take pictures of the awsome job my friend did on this...
if the rain tappers off i'm going to put on the timing cover, crank pulley, intake and TBI damn rain...
day 2.. going slow
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that rubber seal is for pre87 blocks. the later 1 piece blocks don't use that. that seal is integrated. you can get the ones under the cross member. use a 10mm shallow socket.
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i thought of that but since i got the o2 sensor wired up i shouldnt have to but its always an option i'm trying to save as much money as possible
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it seems i have met my first obsticle...
the timing cover will NOT go on... i'm literally tearing my oil pan gasket to shreds... half the oil pan bolts are out,, the ones on the starter side i can not get to but the first 5 on that side are out pan will NOT budge...
the bottom of the gasket is fine its the siides that are tearing.. i dont know how the hell i'm going to do this
the timing cover will NOT go on... i'm literally tearing my oil pan gasket to shreds... half the oil pan bolts are out,, the ones on the starter side i can not get to but the first 5 on that side are out pan will NOT budge...
the bottom of the gasket is fine its the siides that are tearing.. i dont know how the hell i'm going to do this
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get long extensions. you need to take out all of the bolts, but the back 1 on each side. you need to loosen both of those.
you may need to loosen the starter (2 big bolts 9/16" IIRC)
you may need to loosen the starter (2 big bolts 9/16" IIRC)
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ok new update... after many hours of pushing and cursing and a little help from dad i got cover on but i'm almost guarenteed leaks... I'll just have to see and seal it up gtood when i'm done..
new intake is on and i started bolting on the crank puley and harmonic balencer.. still hard at work...
is it ok to bang the harmonic balencer into place? or is there some sorta special tool
new intake is on and i started bolting on the crank puley and harmonic balencer.. still hard at work...
is it ok to bang the harmonic balencer into place? or is there some sorta special tool
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is it ok to bang the harmonic balencer into place? or is there some sorta special tool
is it ok to bang the harmonic balencer into place? or is there some sorta special tool
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i thnk i may have thattool lying around...
today was a disaster... took forever to got timing cover on and now I broke my injector pid... the botom peice of the two top pieces..
I was hookin some stuff up and routing my gass lines and The thing my gas lines screw into broke..
i can only pray I can find it online or in teh junkyard if not i will have to buy an entire new TBI and all teh work I did on the TBIU and FPR will mean squat!!
well i'm off to look for new parts
today was a disaster... took forever to got timing cover on and now I broke my injector pid... the botom peice of the two top pieces..
I was hookin some stuff up and routing my gass lines and The thing my gas lines screw into broke..
i can only pray I can find it online or in teh junkyard if not i will have to buy an entire new TBI and all teh work I did on the TBIU and FPR will mean squat!!
well i'm off to look for new parts
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Good luck finding the parts you need.
BTW, i always just pound the balancer on. i don't like to risk stripping out the crank snout.
BTW, i always just pound the balancer on. i don't like to risk stripping out the crank snout.
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ok everything is in place... day three will be like no work cause i'm concentrating on the oil pan seal and any other odds and ends...
I'm going to set a seal over night then tomorrow morning take it to my fatthers garage and use his air compressor to do the seals and springs then wait for my chip and TBI injector pod and fire it up
I'm going to set a seal over night then tomorrow morning take it to my fatthers garage and use his air compressor to do the seals and springs then wait for my chip and TBI injector pod and fire it up
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noooo way i dont have the knowledge or the patience to do that i'm not looking for major horsepower gains.. just a feww here and there...
I like the bolt on stuff I hate fabricating and body work and I hate electrical stuff..
I bring my car to other people for that but i'll replace and engine anyday
so teh make a short answer long... no i'm not doing the chip burning myself I just want the egr burned out really all i need
I like the bolt on stuff I hate fabricating and body work and I hate electrical stuff..
I bring my car to other people for that but i'll replace and engine anyday
so teh make a short answer long... no i'm not doing the chip burning myself I just want the egr burned out really all i need
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Originally posted by TransAmTBI
I just want the egr burned out really all i need
I just want the egr burned out really all i need
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not really i have talked to many prople who haent had their chip burned and have no problems.. to get max gains i would need to mess with the chip really
mechanically the car will run fine
mechanically the car will run fine
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mechanicly it will be hog rich at idle, run lean up high, have too much upper RPM timing, not have neough timing below 2k. but other than that.
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My car will barely idle with the stock tune. I only have the smaller B-body LT1 cam and stock heads. I can't run aything less than 8* advanced to keep it running. I can't see how people can run a cammed LO3 on the stock tune.
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210/216 @.05 on a 350 cid. exactly what happenened to me when i installed cam. car would not run worth a dam.. without chip tuning. now i was lean all over. idle seemed right on BUT super lean at street cruising to the point the check engine light came on with lean code. WELCOME TO WORLD OF CHIP TUNING !!
puting in a cam without chip tuning is pis++ng in the wind.
honestly it took all last summer to get car dialed in. burn/datalog/burn. this summer it is running like a raped ape.
puting in a cam without chip tuning is pis++ng in the wind.
honestly it took all last summer to get car dialed in. burn/datalog/burn. this summer it is running like a raped ape.
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I know alot of people running lt1 cam and upgrades with stock chip and run fin it seems alot of people have problems with upgraded heads and the rest of the mods all together
Listen guys relax... a chip is on the way... i gave him the specs of my cam and intake and my car....
BUt its not super tuned just enough to get ready for the upgrades..
I will never burn my own chips. worse comes to worse i'll always have someone else do it. i'll waste the extra 100 bucks i dont have the patience to learn about chip burning especially since these engine mods will be he only mods i plan on doing...
after this its a new rear but my money is going for my ws6 some day
Listen guys relax... a chip is on the way... i gave him the specs of my cam and intake and my car....
BUt its not super tuned just enough to get ready for the upgrades..
I will never burn my own chips. worse comes to worse i'll always have someone else do it. i'll waste the extra 100 bucks i dont have the patience to learn about chip burning especially since these engine mods will be he only mods i plan on doing...
after this its a new rear but my money is going for my ws6 some day
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Originally posted by TransAmTBI
I know alot of people running lt1 cam and upgrades with stock chip and run fin it seems alot of people have problems with upgraded heads and the rest of the mods all together
I know alot of people running lt1 cam and upgrades with stock chip and run fin it seems alot of people have problems with upgraded heads and the rest of the mods all together
Originally posted by TransAmTBI
Listen guys relax... a chip is on the way... i gave him the specs of my cam and intake and my car....
Listen guys relax... a chip is on the way... i gave him the specs of my cam and intake and my car....
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I'm with Shifty on this one. I did only a small cam upgrade (LO3 to L98) and my car would barely idle and ran 1.5 seconds slower in the 1/4 mile with the stock chip.
I am currently on my 4th chip since doing all the mods and each one seems to get a little better.
With the stock chip your timing and fuel will be WAY off.
Do some datalogging and have the person doing the chip burn another after he looks at your logs. Your results we get better and better. And all you have to do is ride around with a lap top hooked up to your computer when you want to log data. Pretty simple!
I am currently on my 4th chip since doing all the mods and each one seems to get a little better.
With the stock chip your timing and fuel will be WAY off.
Do some datalogging and have the person doing the chip burn another after he looks at your logs. Your results we get better and better. And all you have to do is ride around with a lap top hooked up to your computer when you want to log data. Pretty simple!
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sounds like an idea i will look into all this one day... i'll have to borrow a lab top for i will never be able to afford one lol
i'll let you guys know how everything goes once i actually get it started once i get my injector pod haha
i actually read about data logging and the other options..
what about that hypertech tuner thing you just plug into the aldl port any good?
i'll let you guys know how everything goes once i actually get it started once i get my injector pod haha
i actually read about data logging and the other options..
what about that hypertech tuner thing you just plug into the aldl port any good?
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the powerprogramerII won't work on OBD1 stuff like ours.
BTW, i paid $35 for the laptop i use for the car stuff.
BTW, i paid $35 for the laptop i use for the car stuff.
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you can get one that cheap?? where i ask where??
by the way everything is back togehther did the valve seals...(not so bad just tedious) and i'm awaiting my chip and injkector pod
by the way everything is back togehther did the valve seals...(not so bad just tedious) and i'm awaiting my chip and injkector pod
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ebay, it doesn't take much of a lap-top to datalog, you can get away with a pretty old, POS.
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