Open element and strut tower brace.
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From: Tx
Car: 92 Z, 91 Formula, 04 CTS, 01 Tahoe
Engine: 355 forged 4 bolt, SuperRam, 58mm t
Transmission: T5, looking for t-56
Open element and strut tower brace.
I know that there are braces for carb/tbi setups. But my question is,where does the brace run;in front of the cleaner or above it? Reason I'm asking is because I turned my Edelbrock drop base upside down so it would sit higher.With a 3" high element,the wing nut holding the cleaner lid down barely touches the underside of my ram-air scoop(SS style hood),which is about 2" high,which leaves no room for the brace if it runs above the cleaner.So I'm hoping that the brace is made to go in front of the cleaner like I'm thinking it should. Can anyone let me know for sure before I buy one?Thanx.
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'91 RS 5.0 TBI
New paint-solid black
ROH Snyper wheels-17x9 wrapped in 275/40/17
Eibach sportline springs
ASCD SS hood
Flowmaster cat-back
TBI mods
383 implantation soon to come.
[This message has been edited by RSpeed (edited December 26, 2000).]
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'91 RS 5.0 TBI
New paint-solid black
ROH Snyper wheels-17x9 wrapped in 275/40/17
Eibach sportline springs
ASCD SS hood
Flowmaster cat-back
TBI mods
383 implantation soon to come.
[This message has been edited by RSpeed (edited December 26, 2000).]
The Edelbrock is a 3 point brace. The cross bar goes in front of the air cleaner, and the 2 rear braces go behind / to the side of it. You'll have plenty of room.
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"Racing is life. Everything else is just waiting." - Steve McQueen - LeMans
305 TBI, T-5. 15.4@92 mph
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9iBird305 do you have any pictures like that one except back further? I want to bo this to my car but I am almost conviced that I have stuff in the way.
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Mike Kenny
Current: 1991 RS 305 TBI
Past: 1990 RS 305 TBI (A woman forgot what red lights are for)
Current: mostly stock - newer 305 w/ 12,000 on it
Eclipse speakers all around w/ 10" tube powered by a Alpine V12 in back
K&N filter w/XStream flow lid - It is sweet!!
Future: 2" Cowl hood
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Mike Kenny
Current: 1991 RS 305 TBI
Past: 1990 RS 305 TBI (A woman forgot what red lights are for)
Current: mostly stock - newer 305 w/ 12,000 on it
Eclipse speakers all around w/ 10" tube powered by a Alpine V12 in back
K&N filter w/XStream flow lid - It is sweet!!
Future: 2" Cowl hood
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From: Tx
Car: 92 Z, 91 Formula, 04 CTS, 01 Tahoe
Engine: 355 forged 4 bolt, SuperRam, 58mm t
Transmission: T5, looking for t-56
Ya know... I just thought about this.If the brace ran over the cleaner lid,it sure would be a pita to remove the lid,huh? Well,there's the amswer to my own question!
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From: Davison / Troy ,Michigan
Car: 1991 Pontiac Firebird
Engine: 3.8
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: Dana 60
I can e-mail them to ya. I just took 2 quick pictures for u. I don't have anymore room on my website to upload anything else.
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Thanx man the pics are helpful. Ignorant question -- The only thing in my way is a black box on the passenger side by where the front post goes, just to the right og the valve cover. What is It?? Can I move it??
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From: Davison / Troy ,Michigan
Car: 1991 Pontiac Firebird
Engine: 3.8
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: Dana 60
That is where u put ur brake fluid I belive. I am guessing that is what ur talking about? I am not sure if u can move it or not. Don't know anyone that ever has.
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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-MSD Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone-Free TBI mods
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html
For info on certain parts or mods go to the site below
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/modeval.html
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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-MSD Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone-Free TBI mods
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html
For info on certain parts or mods go to the site below
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/modeval.html
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thing is, your car isnt differnt or anything than the rest of ours, so if you just buy a strut tower brace made for a 3rd gen, it will fit, whether it looks like it or not. and you shouldnt have to move anything either.
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91Bird305, I believe the brake fluid resevior is located on the driver's side. I think the box Neo is talking about is part of the AIR system.
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could also be a heater hose valve. It is semi movable if thats what it is. front passenger side of valve cover??? But ya, dont worry bout wasting money, i would say its a good buy, cheap install for increased handling. And like i said, they are made specifically for our identical cars
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From: Davison / Troy ,Michigan
Car: 1991 Pontiac Firebird
Engine: 3.8
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: Dana 60
Ah ur right Soul, Wrong side.
It probably is the AIR system Neo is talking about. I don't know if the STB fits with the AIR systems or not. Mine are pulled. But I am pretty sure they do. If not, u can always remove that stuff. 
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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-MSD Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone-Free TBI mods
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html
For info on certain parts or mods go to the site below
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/modeval.html
It probably is the AIR system Neo is talking about. I don't know if the STB fits with the AIR systems or not. Mine are pulled. But I am pretty sure they do. If not, u can always remove that stuff. 
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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-MSD Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone-Free TBI mods
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html
For info on certain parts or mods go to the site below
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/modeval.html
It is the air system, I figured that out today the other one next to it is the heater control valve, and when you break it you get antifreeze spraing everywhere, go figure. To read about my problems see my post on the Tech/General Engine Board. It is bad but fixable.
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Mike Kenny
Current: 1991 RS 305 TBI
Past: 1990 RS 305 TBI (A woman forgot what red lights are for)
Current: mostly stock - newer 305 w/ 12,000 on it
Eclipse speakers all around w/ 10" tube powered by a Alpine V12 in back
K&N filter w/XStream flow lid - It is sweet!!
Future: 2" Cowl hood
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Mike Kenny
Current: 1991 RS 305 TBI
Past: 1990 RS 305 TBI (A woman forgot what red lights are for)
Current: mostly stock - newer 305 w/ 12,000 on it
Eclipse speakers all around w/ 10" tube powered by a Alpine V12 in back
K&N filter w/XStream flow lid - It is sweet!!
Future: 2" Cowl hood
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