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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 07:34 PM
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surging idle/constant RPM

look at this vid, to pretty much explain it
<Car Stats there and also in vBgarage

any idea on how to solve this

im holding it at 2k then at other RPMs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrwnyKGNkOU

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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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Re: surging idle/constant RPM

If I had to guess, which is mostly all that I can do over the 'net, is that there is a vacuum leak. Good possibility it is the gasket between the TB and intake manifold.

The reason I say this is that after the throttle is punched and the engine returns to idle there is a whistle sound (from about 37 seconds on to the end). I've found this to be either the TB base gasket has dried up and is leaking or the air cleaner assembly has been changed.

As for the air cleaner set up for some reason non-stock setups can cause a whistle. Not sure why, just that they can.

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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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Re: surging idle/constant RPM

i dont have a stock breather, and i think i had it off on that vid....

it may be the gasket, but its new so im not sure, i need to hook my vac gauge up and see what im running in vac, see if its a little low

what whistle my be that power master alt also, idk why but all power masters seem to be a little louder than stock alts
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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BUMP!!!!!!
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 12:20 PM
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Re: surging idle/constant RPM

had a similar issue, i would say a vacuum leak somewhere, try pulling codes too, my problem was a bad MAT sensor.
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 04:16 PM
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Re: surging idle/constant RPM

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had a similar issue, i would say a vacuum leak somewhere, try pulling codes too, my problem was a bad MAT sensor.

grrr can find a vac leak anywhere BAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol i will pull the codes later tonight i hope
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 11:43 PM
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Re: surging idle/constant RPM

honestly it it sounds alot like mine did after I did the tbi mods and headers and all. I ended up haveing to set the comp into the feild service mode. use the jumper for the check engine while runing and back the throttle stop off a little. but mine also stumbled when in gear though
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 08:34 PM
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Re: surging idle/constant RPM

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honestly it it sounds alot like mine did after I did the tbi mods and headers and all. I ended up haveing to set the comp into the feild service mode. use the jumper for the check engine while runing and back the throttle stop off a little. but mine also stumbled when in gear though

mine is stumbling at high rpms, so you put it is field service and set the idle screw???

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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 04:42 AM
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Re: surging idle/constant RPM

My 2.hate S10 did that to me once (right at the same RPM). It was a hairline crack in the ign. coil. It would have been easy to spot on a scope but I don't have one. I popped the hood open at night and watched the little purple ants jump around on the coil.
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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 12:59 PM
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Re: surging idle/constant RPM

Are the pcv/breather valves in the valve covers in decent condition still ?

Is the TBI unit crusted on the bottom in the sunken valleys?
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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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Re: surging idle/constant RPM

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Are the pcv/breather valves in the valve covers in decent condition still ?

Is the TBI unit crusted on the bottom in the sunken valleys?

PCV is new, crankcase breather is new, TBI is brand new...... i cant figure out why its doing this for anything.....all i can figure is the ing module, since it breaks up at high rpms to
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