chevytruckguy

I have watch all the fricking you tube videos on this mod anyone else looked at this mod??

xch3no2

Yes we have all seen this garbage.

No need to spam here like you have spamed other sites.

Tuned Performance

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UnderCover89TBI

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!!!!!

chevytruckguy

Not spaming! If asking questions is spaming Then I am! Getting smart *** answer from other sites is why I'm here! What I'm looking for answer date if this fourm can't do that in a costructive maner, I guess I'm waist my time here all so!! So if any would like to ingage in tell why this tech can't possible work with science data numbers I'm all ear's! I the kinda guy if I see something I want to see it touch it! A couple of other fourms a few members have tried this mod mix review's so I'm here this is the place for tbi tunning and so on! Hope you guy can work with that So if you going to be a smart *** don't waist my time and if you feel like walking me through why you thing it can't work I more that happy to listen and ask questions Thanks

xch3no2

Study intake harmonics for real, from the late father of the art/science.

http://www.profblairandassociates.com/

Boundary layer dynamics would also be a fruitful area of study for you.

chevytruckguy

This sites software for engineers designed by engineers! I'm not a engineers so I don't see how this is going to help me! or any one else working out of there garage!
This is air flow cfm's passing over a mod being direct! The question! 1.what does this do to the fuel??? My guess is it help atomise the fuel air mix for a better burn! It I'm some what right that would explain his smog testing number!
Also for you to look at
Your turn !http://www.google.com/patents?id=opT...hatton&f=false

xch3no2

Obvious shill.

chevytruckguy

That fine I figure that! Still like a dog with a bone I want to knowAnd that all I need like any Idea there is allways the nay sayers!
http://dodgeforum.com/forum/2nd-gen-...an-groove.html
http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/ar.../t-204454.html

chevytruckguy

I call the guy and sense he is in my area I'm going down and take a look at his Idea as it apply to me! 1.reducing smog 2. improving mpg 3. if there is performance that would be cool also.

Tuned Performance

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have fun wasting your time.

http://ecomodder.com/blog/gadgetman-...y-bs-hits-npr/

chevytruckguy

Tell me something I don't allready know! The truck tested was a piece of junk as was post on there web site. All products have failers you of all people should know that! Still even with that failer they still offer to help set up a testing process. testing cost money! At some point and being up and running for over 2yr and selling world wide its bound to go down two way the test will prove or disprove the product! Even with that still does stop people from buying if they think it work happen all day long.

chevytruckguy

Like it or not its being done! There is a fourm on there web site I pulled this one out because it being done on a newer chevy with a tech showing picture and testing!
http://www.gadgetmangroove.com/inde...=794&Itemid=829

chevytruckguy

Ok guys, I met with the inventor today and also had the good fortune to watch the mod done on a saturn The owner a engineer from Honeywell said it work good! I and a number of people came by to take a look at this invention including a student from UTI Which also test drove the saturm before and after! Anyway I now have a moded tbi in hand And will start testing soon! Picture to follow! Thanks

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EagleMark

I just offered to drive to AZ from Idaho and record MPG, let him do the mod and drive back to Idaho and record MPG if he pays for fuel and give unbiased real world data on this theory!

lethaldomestics

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What a deal eaglemark ! ,My thoughts is he wont go for it. I think if we all chip in a few bucks for the throttle body core that would be nice. I hate too see you junk a throttle body.

Apeiron

I have to remember to dump my Honeywell stocks.

Tuned Performance

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EagleMark

I have another new throttle body so I'm not worried, he can do origanal so there's no other change.

I doubt he will take my offer but I like AZ in winter and have time to do this. You know results would be truthful.

one92rs

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i did not take pics or do it myself. but a buddy of mine was dead set on it. had to open the throttle blades so much that i dont think it did a darn thing. it still has a slight surge to it. right now i am honestly thinking that this mod is making up for other problems within the tb's of all the suspects trying to get what they can out of it. i gave him my extra tb that i did the mods on and cleaned up very well. put in a new ac delco iac and set the tps to .56. played a tiny bit with it and now runs way better than it ever did. now the pcv valve will actually work too. i brought this up first. now i have seen it and i DO NOT LIKE IT. i would get pics but after i got his running good the right way he destroyed the modded tb.

chevytruckguy

That would be a good test.

chevytruckguy

I like that you assume other would lie! there 's the rug, right why would I believe you! Don't assume! I or other would lie. you want to be fair then do so!

chevytruckguy

Will be posting picture tomarrow.

chevytruckguy

Here is my testing tbi on the right, As you can see its no modded unit just a stock unit with the groove. I have set up my own personal tbi to compare the two. I will be taking it apart for cleaning before installation. What you can't see is the groove depth and shape

EagleMark

First you don't know me and those that do know I would do an unbiased test.

So far I have seen no one except for anonymous postings from people that have never been part of anything. They just appear and say how wonderful it is. For all we know it is one person doing all the posts on forums and blogs. I have yet to see anyone, anywhere say anything good about this except for new members that come out and only post one thing and it is how wonderful this is and then they disappear again?.

As for the groove your doing that has nothing to do with the original gadgetman modification of the IAC ports that claims to give 40% increase of fuel mileage. What you are doing is from a patent application that I read and it is all theory! No technical information or tests were cited in the application?

Good luck! Really, I hope it works! If it does I will do it too!

But I doubt the billions of dollars spent by car manufactures to create new and better technology have missed this for the last 100 years...

chevytruckguy

I never once said its the next best think. I have ask the question! I understand know one thinks it worth a darn! That's ok too, So i'm posting what I find Just that simple. I'm sure theres a few wonder if they should buy one because they really want that gas savings. As far as I know this is the only gadgetman groove I know about with the patent and test you tube video's Just remember I'm dumping my money my time in to this thing so other can see.

Tuned Performance

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EagleMark

Doesn't matter! You have 20 posts, 19 are about Gadgetman, one was a dumb question no one even answered.

No one will believe you! It seems you fall into same category that I mentioned above?

So are you this one person Gadgetman?

So we need a credible person to do the test. I have offered here, on the blog and an email to him but never received a reply?

Pay the gas bill and I will do a 4,000 mile test. 2000 mile without and 2000 with? I will cover all other expenses and Gadgetman himself can do both the mods so there is no question that they are done properly! One states 40% increase in milage and I don't remeber anything but theory mentioned in the other?

Then if it works at even 50% of what he states for one mod, although he can do 2 mods, which is only 20% improvement of gas mileage I will give him free advertising for life!

one92rs

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what are the marks in the bores on the tbi on the right.

Twin_Turbo

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that's the ffedupthrottlebodygroove

EagleMark

http://www.google.com/patents?id=opT...hatton&f=false

one92rs

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i thought he said un modded.

BlackenedBird

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Left TB is unmodded, right TB is modded

one92rs

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well he sais that the right one is not modded. is that it? wow little ***** of air.

Tuned Performance

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***** of air are puddling up and there going to produce astronomical gas milage.

BlackenedBird

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His words....."just a stock unit with the groove" His words of "unmodded" I think he is referring to a stock TB with ONLY the groove. To my eyes it is obvious between the left having nothing & the right having the groove.

one92rs

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wow snake oil to me.

Tuned Performance

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I like the mud on the iac

EagleMark

That is the other gadgetman mod for an additional 40% MPG...

one92rs

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so if we do both mods to the tb we should see 75% more fuel mileage.

chevytruckguy

I see we have a bunch of children here as well! It like any other product on the market! you want to find out! you go and buy one. I was lucky enought to be given one to test and report my finding! So you have to ask if Ron hatton was blow smoke why would he agree to such a thing??? He could just keep plug a way and doing his thing!
I now have to wonder What you modivation is really! You don't really think Mr. Hatton does not know where all the site are or what is being said do you? LOL! Start acting like a professional watch whats happening you want to beat it to death then knock you self out!!

chevytruckguy

Look I have know Idea! I went over took a look saw the mod done in real time happy people. That all I know! I'm test a tbi you want to watch that up to you!

Twin_Turbo

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Stop spamming this forum with this junk, you're spamming hotrodders.com also

http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/gadg...dy-214092.html

Don't insult our intelligence by trying to pose as being an impartial customer. You're either this Ron guy or someone close to him. Your sole reason is to spam this product on every TBI related forum known to man. Give it up, no one believes in fairy tales anymore...this BS has to stop

BlackenedBird

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I'm open minded & not taking sides (i'm TPI anyways so it doesn't matter to me)......

You do realize that it is a no-win test? No matter your answer, the haters will come up with some excuse for your answer, be it good or bad.

EagleMark

At least over there he has a few hundred posts before last 25 on Gadgetman.

Here he has 22. 21 on gadgetman...

So he's either Gadgetman or a paid for adveriser on gadgetman? So even if it worked no one would beleive you.

Don't take me up on my offer, just pick someone that has a long time reputation here and send them one! There's 100's of guys here who people would trust. Your not one of them.

Prove it once and for all.

Tuned Performance

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chevytruckguy

Yes I know! It amazing I have been on the fourms a long time! And if you dig a round you will see This is not my first ride on reviewing products because I wanted to know about it! If you see that! All you real have to do is watch! I don't candy coat it and I use the same screen name to make it easy to find me not hiding this at all I say about the same thing on all site except when the hater come rolling out.

chevytruckguy

If you look around he is going to be in Idaho next month if I remember correctly at a tech conference you can go and talk to his you self. I would like to see that test my self if he decide to let you do it the would be great.