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Old Jun 30, 2002 | 09:19 PM
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Non-CC HEI Hookup Questions

I can crank my engine over, but I get no spark.

On the coil where the wires from the module hook up, there are two terminals. one is labeled tach. the other one is labeled batt.

I'm using an after market tachometer (my car was a v6 that was swapped to a v8, therefore the tach is off). The instructions say to hook the signal wire to the Tach terminal.

My question is this. What hooks to the Batt terminal? From the harness that hooked to the distributor originally, there was a black wire, and a pinkish colored wire with a gray plastc connector on it.

any ideas, guys?
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Old Jun 30, 2002 | 09:30 PM
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Hey Robert, the batt terminal is where the black wire goes, make sure by turning the key on and put a multimeter on it to see if it has 12v.
(somebody correct me if i'm wrong)
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Old Jun 30, 2002 | 09:47 PM
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When I did my swap I used the fat red, maybe pinkish wire with the white wire..they are together in a clip..from the old setup...the fat red one is bat..the white one is tach (previous) I dont know the gauge but the bat wire is alot heavier than the rest...If you need I can see exactly where they run tomorrow. Let me know. To Tell ya the truth just about any keyed sorce would work. But The wires are there, you just need to change connectors.
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Old Jun 30, 2002 | 10:05 PM
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I got to looking at my wiring under the dash, this wiring is fubar.

I'm considering re-wiring the car over the winter.

I'm guessing I can hook this Green wire from the tach into the Red wire onto the tach terminal?
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Old Jul 1, 2002 | 07:07 AM
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I dont think you want to hook the tach to the bat side, Maybe I'm missing something , but why not hook it to the tach terminal on the dist? The Bat side is the ignition power source.
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Old Jul 1, 2002 | 06:10 PM
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The thing that has me confused is this. In the harness where the distributor wiring is, there is a black wire that piggybacks with the red wire.

I'm wondering if the black wire is a ground, or if that is the tach wire?


I'll try looking at some wiring diagrams if I find any.

EDIT--- Looked at some 1985 and 1986 diagrams (the ones found in the Tech article section), and still can't find any wiring. Hmm.

I'm going to hold off, and see what happens tomorrow.

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Old Jul 1, 2002 | 10:16 PM
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back to the top we go.
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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 03:06 PM
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I will try to take a pic of mine, I just hooked it up 2 days ago... at work right now so I can't
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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 08:04 PM
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What year is your car?? Mine is an 86 that used to be cc also. What distributor/coil setup are you using? Is your distributor GM, or MSD or Some other perfromance? The pinkish red wire is the 12v wire and plugged into BAT on your OEM distributor. If your new distributor has a terminal marked BAT, and it is GM, This is the place to hook it up. The white wire in your car is the Tach wire, or was your tach wire rather. You need to plug your aftermarket tach wire into the TACH terminal on your distributor. These two wires (white & pink) are ones that plug in from the car somewhere, to the distributor. My car had a black wire, but iut was from the distributor, to the distributor.

Make sure that black wire isn't the ground wire before you hook it up to the TACH.

If this does not sound right for your car, post your info:
Year, model, engine size, etc. and I will look up your wiring diagram.
Hope this helps
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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 08:50 PM
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No third gen's use green wire for the tach, so I assume this is the wire from your aftermarket tach??

what did you get the distributor out of? If it has a red wire coming out of the "TACH" terminal, then it is safe to say, that this is where you hook up the tachometer.

As for the body wiring.

You have an 84 camaro right? If it was the 2.8L, then the Pinkish Red wire is the ignition(12V) wire.

The Tach wire would be Black with a white stripe.

Sound right? it should if it was an 84 2.8L
So....if green=aftermarket tach, hook it up to black/white
........hook pinkish red fat wire, to terminal marked"BAT" on distributor. (whatever color the wire is)

Hope this makes sense.
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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 08:57 PM
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i am also swithcing from CC to non CC

on my ORIGINAL CC COIL there are four wires

red/white onto the coil

red/white from the coil to the distrib

i have a 75-80 style vacuum advance HEI distributor

where do i hook the white and red wires on the new non-cc distrib?
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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 09:18 PM
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If you have the 5.0 or 3.1....................

There should also be a black wire that connects from the coil to the distributor. (OEM)
Just thought you might want to know that.

Also very important, are you switching coils too????
Your OEM coil should have been external. right? You might have to change that?

The 5.7 liter had an internal coil, in which case, you will not know what I am talking about when I say you have a black wire from the coil.

But the rest is true for all of the engines that year:

1. Pink or Red= ignition wire. *hooks up to new distributor at terminal marked "BAT"

2. White= Tachometer wire. * hooks up to new distributor at terminal marked "TACH"

---if distributor does not have terminals marked "BAT" or "TACH", you have to find a wiring diagram for the car that distributor came from.

Also make sure if you guys have loom resistors or ballast resistors, you are not bypassing them.
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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 09:22 PM
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ok i have a 305

i just ordered the coil-in-cap accel super coil for my vacuum advance HEI distrib- which is also coil in cap


also wheres a good starting point to set my timing at?
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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 09:26 PM
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Thats a good question. Unfortunately, hooking the distributor up is as far as I have gotten.

Anyone have any advice for us? I need to set my timing too.
My dist. is a Mallory Unilite vacuum advance.

We both need to know where to set our timing at.

Sorry I couldn't help you anymore.
Does the wiring make sense though?
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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 10:19 PM
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Originally posted by brett_sc
If it has a red wire coming out of the "TACH" terminal, then it is safe to say, that this is where you hook up the tachometer.

As for the body wiring.

You have an 84 camaro right? If it was the 2.8L, then the Pinkish Red wire is the ignition(12V) wire.

The Tach wire would be Black with a white stripe.

Sound right? it should if it was an 84 2.8L
So....if green=aftermarket tach, hook it up to black/white
........hook pinkish red fat wire, to terminal marked"BAT" on distributor. (whatever color the wire is)

Hope this makes sense.
Brett, you are awesome. I looked for a day trying to find the wiring diagrams, and found nadft. anyway, I did get the distributor hooked up correctly, figured what the hell, i'll try it.

I did get a pop when i cranked it over, so i think i may have fouled my plugs out. I'll pull them (champion rs12yc) and may replace them with a set of ngk's or delco's
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Old Jul 3, 2002 | 04:53 AM
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nobody listens to Riley........ This link may help a little......http://www.actron.com/dragnspt.pdf

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