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5 ways to boost power in your car for CHEAP!!!!!
I did this to my 82 TransAm before the motor blew....
1 - Headers
2 - Free-flow Catalytic converters
3 - Open element air cleaner.
4 - Free-flow Intake
5 - Roller Rockers
1 - For headers, I suggest a set of FlowTECH headers. They sell them, special order through JC Whitney. I used a set on my 82 TransAm, and then ended up selling them. You can get the ENTIRE set, for your f-body WITH the corresponding larger diameter Y-pipe for $200 dollars SHIPPED to your house. $200 bucks includes the headers, the y-pipe and ALL the mounting hardware. If you want to keep your AIR injection fittings, they can sell them to you with the holes for an additional $20 bucks. They can also put an O2 sensor hole in them for $10 bucks. You just have to ask them. On an otherwise completely stock 82 LG4 V8, you can expect around 20-25 horsepower. More if used with other mods.
2 - Free flow catalytic converters... you wouldn't believe how restrictive the old BRICK style cats are... you can gain MUCH more power and flow by replacing the cats with NEW free-flow aftermarket cats, than you would by replacing the entire cat-back exhaust with a Borla. People always forget that the cats are a huge bottleneck in this older cars. They also think that by GUTTING them.. that it's helping them, when instead it's creating a huge flow distortion in the exhaust. Replace the cats with aftermarket free-flow cats, or get straight pipes. These are about $50 bucks each. You can expect anywhere from 5-8 horsepower with a new set of cats.
3 - It helps improve slow... the factory single snorkle filter canister on top of my 82 TransAm was ridiculous... extremely restrictive... I suggest a moderate sized open element with just a regular paper filter. $20 bucks from the parts store.. and improved flow at ALL rpms.
4 - The one in particular that I'm thinking of is the Edelbrock 3701 intake.. you can purchase this OFF THE SHELF from Discount Auto Parts new in the box for $104 dollars. They also sell the 2102 intake, same as the 3701 but for NON EGR purposes, that one is $102 dollars. Expect ~5-6 horsepower increase from the intake, more if used in conjunction with other performance parts.
5 - Roller rockers... the EASIEST way to improve horsepower using the car's factory grind. The ones in particular that I suggest are the Crane Roller Rockers. You can get them in a set of either 1.52:1 or 1.6:1. You won't see THAT much more performance with the 1.52:1 since I believe the factory stamping is 1.5 but you'll still notice some difference. It produces LESS friction on the engine which allows the motor to get up in teh RPMS much more efficiently which equates to more power. The 1.6:1 will definitely help, and you WILL notice a big difference in power. Summit Racing, last I checked had them for about $129 dollars.
All in all, that comes out to $503 dollars! And you just improved your fuel economy, horsepower.. and driveability.
Expect at LEAST a second off your car's stock quarter mile time.
All of that can be done without digging INTO the engine itself.
The hardest installs are the roller rockers, and the headers. But with an experienced friend or neighbor, it shouldn't be too hard.
Todd,
1997 Pontiac GrandAm SE
1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6
1984 Pontiac Fiero 2m4 SE *WS6*
1981 Pontiac TransAm (350sbc)
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1 - Headers
2 - Free-flow Catalytic converters
3 - Open element air cleaner.
4 - Free-flow Intake
5 - Roller Rockers
1 - For headers, I suggest a set of FlowTECH headers. They sell them, special order through JC Whitney. I used a set on my 82 TransAm, and then ended up selling them. You can get the ENTIRE set, for your f-body WITH the corresponding larger diameter Y-pipe for $200 dollars SHIPPED to your house. $200 bucks includes the headers, the y-pipe and ALL the mounting hardware. If you want to keep your AIR injection fittings, they can sell them to you with the holes for an additional $20 bucks. They can also put an O2 sensor hole in them for $10 bucks. You just have to ask them. On an otherwise completely stock 82 LG4 V8, you can expect around 20-25 horsepower. More if used with other mods.
2 - Free flow catalytic converters... you wouldn't believe how restrictive the old BRICK style cats are... you can gain MUCH more power and flow by replacing the cats with NEW free-flow aftermarket cats, than you would by replacing the entire cat-back exhaust with a Borla. People always forget that the cats are a huge bottleneck in this older cars. They also think that by GUTTING them.. that it's helping them, when instead it's creating a huge flow distortion in the exhaust. Replace the cats with aftermarket free-flow cats, or get straight pipes. These are about $50 bucks each. You can expect anywhere from 5-8 horsepower with a new set of cats.
3 - It helps improve slow... the factory single snorkle filter canister on top of my 82 TransAm was ridiculous... extremely restrictive... I suggest a moderate sized open element with just a regular paper filter. $20 bucks from the parts store.. and improved flow at ALL rpms.
4 - The one in particular that I'm thinking of is the Edelbrock 3701 intake.. you can purchase this OFF THE SHELF from Discount Auto Parts new in the box for $104 dollars. They also sell the 2102 intake, same as the 3701 but for NON EGR purposes, that one is $102 dollars. Expect ~5-6 horsepower increase from the intake, more if used in conjunction with other performance parts.
5 - Roller rockers... the EASIEST way to improve horsepower using the car's factory grind. The ones in particular that I suggest are the Crane Roller Rockers. You can get them in a set of either 1.52:1 or 1.6:1. You won't see THAT much more performance with the 1.52:1 since I believe the factory stamping is 1.5 but you'll still notice some difference. It produces LESS friction on the engine which allows the motor to get up in teh RPMS much more efficiently which equates to more power. The 1.6:1 will definitely help, and you WILL notice a big difference in power. Summit Racing, last I checked had them for about $129 dollars.
All in all, that comes out to $503 dollars! And you just improved your fuel economy, horsepower.. and driveability.
Expect at LEAST a second off your car's stock quarter mile time.
All of that can be done without digging INTO the engine itself.
The hardest installs are the roller rockers, and the headers. But with an experienced friend or neighbor, it shouldn't be too hard.
Todd,
1997 Pontiac GrandAm SE
1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6
1984 Pontiac Fiero 2m4 SE *WS6*
1981 Pontiac TransAm (350sbc)
http://community.webshots.com/user/todd82ta
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Re: 5 ways to boost power in your car for CHEAP!!!!!
Originally posted by 82-T/A [Work]
1 - For headers, I suggest a set of FlowTECH headers. They sell them, special order through JC Whitney. I used a set on my 82 TransAm, and then ended up selling them. You can get the ENTIRE set, for your f-body WITH the corresponding larger diameter Y-pipe for $200 dollars SHIPPED to your house. $200 bucks includes the headers, the y-pipe and ALL the mounting hardware. If you want to keep your AIR injection fittings, they can sell them to you with the holes for an additional $20 bucks. They can also put an O2 sensor hole in them for $10 bucks. You just have to ask them. On an otherwise completely stock 82 LG4 V8, you can expect around 20-25 horsepower. More if used with other mods.
1 - For headers, I suggest a set of FlowTECH headers. They sell them, special order through JC Whitney. I used a set on my 82 TransAm, and then ended up selling them. You can get the ENTIRE set, for your f-body WITH the corresponding larger diameter Y-pipe for $200 dollars SHIPPED to your house. $200 bucks includes the headers, the y-pipe and ALL the mounting hardware. If you want to keep your AIR injection fittings, they can sell them to you with the holes for an additional $20 bucks. They can also put an O2 sensor hole in them for $10 bucks. You just have to ask them. On an otherwise completely stock 82 LG4 V8, you can expect around 20-25 horsepower. More if used with other mods.
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Nice sarcastic reply,
Here's my problem... I don't see the point of spending $600 bucks for a set of Edelbrock TES Headers + Y-pipe when I'll maybe see 5 more horsepower than I would over a set of CHEAP $200 FlowTECH headers.
You'll notice that the subject of this thread is "5 ways to boost power in your car for CHEAP!!!!!"
I'm not exactly sure how much more to accentuate the term CHEAP. Should I have underlined it? Maybe then it would have been more clear to you.
Todd,
1997 Pontiac GrandAm SE
1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6
1984 Pontiac Fiero 2m4 SE *WS6*
1981 Pontiac TransAm (350sbc)
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Here's my problem... I don't see the point of spending $600 bucks for a set of Edelbrock TES Headers + Y-pipe when I'll maybe see 5 more horsepower than I would over a set of CHEAP $200 FlowTECH headers.
You'll notice that the subject of this thread is "5 ways to boost power in your car for CHEAP!!!!!"
I'm not exactly sure how much more to accentuate the term CHEAP. Should I have underlined it? Maybe then it would have been more clear to you.
Todd,
1997 Pontiac GrandAm SE
1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6
1984 Pontiac Fiero 2m4 SE *WS6*
1981 Pontiac TransAm (350sbc)
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where are you spending $600 on a set of TES's? SLP's don't even go for that much with the y-pipe. I paid $300 including shipping for my Edelbrocks, gave me 3 tenths too...
i agree with you on the roller rockers too, i'm ordering a set tomorrow
Eric
i agree with you on the roller rockers too, i'm ordering a set tomorrow
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How much did you pay for shipping, the hardware, and everything else including the new gaskets and manifold bolts?
the exact price was $198 dollars.. and that's how much I paid, to buy everything and have it shipped directly to my house.
I've got a set of hooker comp equal length headers on my 81 TransAm, but the FlowTECHS are excellent for the price you pay.
Todd
the exact price was $198 dollars.. and that's how much I paid, to buy everything and have it shipped directly to my house.
I've got a set of hooker comp equal length headers on my 81 TransAm, but the FlowTECHS are excellent for the price you pay.
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I'm glad you picked up on the sarcasm, I was layin it on pretty thick.
I payed $313 for my edelbrock headers with bolts, and another $20 for the gasket. Not that I'm sayin Edelbrock headers are the best, but you're not goin to pay $600 for them.
Jegs also sells Flowtech headers my brother just put them on his car. And they're not equal length headers are they? Which will hurt performance. And the coating that came on my brothers looked like crap, there were some bare spots with rust right out the box.
I payed $313 for my edelbrock headers with bolts, and another $20 for the gasket. Not that I'm sayin Edelbrock headers are the best, but you're not goin to pay $600 for them.
Jegs also sells Flowtech headers my brother just put them on his car. And they're not equal length headers are they? Which will hurt performance. And the coating that came on my brothers looked like crap, there were some bare spots with rust right out the box.
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [Work]
[B and that's how much I paid, to buy everything and have it shipped directly to my house.
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[B and that's how much I paid, to buy everything and have it shipped directly to my house.
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Sorry man, I'm just messin with ya, I'm feelin good this mornin since it's like 70* out instead of 100*. Trending Topics
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haha mark, i can have ups shipped right to my workplace!
it's nice, considering i can order something, and just bring it home from work.
it's nice, considering i can order something, and just bring it home from work.
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Ouch dude...
Heh, anyway, the point is... this was my 82 TransAm... I bought the car for $800 bucks.
The point is cheap performance modifications....
FlowTECH is still better than stock.
Did that $313 include shipping? That's normally like at least $70-$80 bucks for both pieces....
The $200 dollars (actually came out to $198) included everything plus the shipping.
The precision isn't AS good as the Edelbrock... I'm certainly not doubting the fact that the Edelbrock TES headers ARE really nice headers, AND better than FlowTECHS....
But how many people here don't even have CHEAP headers?
The FlowTECHs aren't equal length (though you can buy a set that does, but what's the point? then they cost more).. but I think it's wrong to say that the FlowTECH HURT performance.. because we both know that's not true...
they may not ADD as much performance as the equal length Edelbrocks... but you still get a good ~20 horsepower from the FlowTECHs.
With the money you save, that person could do an entire tune-up on their car, AND buy that open element air filter.
Todd
Heh, anyway, the point is... this was my 82 TransAm... I bought the car for $800 bucks.
The point is cheap performance modifications....
FlowTECH is still better than stock.
Did that $313 include shipping? That's normally like at least $70-$80 bucks for both pieces....
The $200 dollars (actually came out to $198) included everything plus the shipping.
The precision isn't AS good as the Edelbrock... I'm certainly not doubting the fact that the Edelbrock TES headers ARE really nice headers, AND better than FlowTECHS....
But how many people here don't even have CHEAP headers?
The FlowTECHs aren't equal length (though you can buy a set that does, but what's the point? then they cost more).. but I think it's wrong to say that the FlowTECH HURT performance.. because we both know that's not true...
they may not ADD as much performance as the equal length Edelbrocks... but you still get a good ~20 horsepower from the FlowTECHs.
With the money you save, that person could do an entire tune-up on their car, AND buy that open element air filter.
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I was just makin sure people didn't rush out to buy Flowtechs cause you said you recommend them.
Summit and Jegs offer free shipping, only $6.95 for handling.
Summit and Jegs offer free shipping, only $6.95 for handling.
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You can also go down to your local Advanced Auto parts store and order Edelbrocks. There 299, they'll be there in two days, and because they come to the store, you don't pay shipping.
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Originally posted by ede
well yeah that's all well and good, but i'd like to know what the most expensive mods are for the least gain
well yeah that's all well and good, but i'd like to know what the most expensive mods are for the least gain
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There is nothing wrong with Flowtechs. Take them over Edelcraps anyday. They fit better, clear everything better, are cheaper, and probably perform better too. No they're not as good as Hookers or SLPs, but I'd put then at about the #3 spot in that order, and they're as cheap as they come.
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How about that tornado air intake mod.
How about that tornado air intake mod.
LOL!!! I saw that the other day so I called them about 3 times telling then "that thing doesnt work" The operator said how do you know if you never tried it? I just said "I know...." LOL that was about the funniest thing all day! It adds 20HP you know!
<img src=http://www.dirtroad.com/tornado2.jpg>
<img src=http://www.dirtroad.com/tornado1.jpg>
>so for about 100 bucks more with old Eldelbrock what do I get?
Better sound?
More HP?
That cool sticker?
>More flow?
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I had a friend that bought a Tornado air, and he saved SOOO much in fuel costs.. he improved fuel economy by 30%!
He decided to get a couple more.. he eventually installed one in EACH carburetor bore, and then one LARGE one in the open element air filter.
It got to the point that he was saving soo much fuel, that it began to convert the oxygen and fumes in the tank, into actual gasoline... this kept on, and eventually, his gas tank started making it's OWN gas.. and it started overflowing, and his car blew up and he died....
Todd
He decided to get a couple more.. he eventually installed one in EACH carburetor bore, and then one LARGE one in the open element air filter.
It got to the point that he was saving soo much fuel, that it began to convert the oxygen and fumes in the tank, into actual gasoline... this kept on, and eventually, his gas tank started making it's OWN gas.. and it started overflowing, and his car blew up and he died....
Todd
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I'm sure they are better then pacesetter though
only thing I would worry about with the flowtech headers is the tubing diam. there could be warping or something like that if it is too thin and also the flanges. they can warp as well if the stuff is cheap and too thin
there are reasons why products can be cheap
some of them are cheap piping, flanges, small piping, or flanges, cheap welds, poor R&D, stuff like that
just remember you get what you pay for
though for the most part you should still get a gain from a stock exhuast, so I will give yo ucredit there, but I say for the difference you might as well have gotten the good shiznit
only thing I would worry about with the flowtech headers is the tubing diam. there could be warping or something like that if it is too thin and also the flanges. they can warp as well if the stuff is cheap and too thin
there are reasons why products can be cheap
some of them are cheap piping, flanges, small piping, or flanges, cheap welds, poor R&D, stuff like that
just remember you get what you pay for
though for the most part you should still get a gain from a stock exhuast, so I will give yo ucredit there, but I say for the difference you might as well have gotten the good shiznit
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Re: 5 ways to boost power in your car for CHEAP!!!!!
Originally posted by 82-T/A [Work]
I did this to my 82 TransAm before the motor blew....
1 - Headers
2 - Free-flow Catalytic converters
3 - Open element air cleaner.
4 - Free-flow Intake
5 - Roller Rockers
1 - For headers, I suggest a set of FlowTECH headers. They sell them, special order through JC Whitney. I used a set on my 82 TransAm, and then ended up selling them. You can get the ENTIRE set, for your f-body WITH the corresponding larger diameter Y-pipe for $200 dollars SHIPPED to your house. $200 bucks includes the headers, the y-pipe and ALL the mounting hardware. If you want to keep your AIR injection fittings, they can sell them to you with the holes for an additional $20 bucks. They can also put an O2 sensor hole in them for $10 bucks. You just have to ask them. On an otherwise completely stock 82 LG4 V8, you can expect around 20-25 horsepower. More if used with other mods.
2 - Free flow catalytic converters... you wouldn't believe how restrictive the old BRICK style cats are... you can gain MUCH more power and flow by replacing the cats with NEW free-flow aftermarket cats, than you would by replacing the entire cat-back exhaust with a Borla. People always forget that the cats are a huge bottleneck in this older cars. They also think that by GUTTING them.. that it's helping them, when instead it's creating a huge flow distortion in the exhaust. Replace the cats with aftermarket free-flow cats, or get straight pipes. These are about $50 bucks each. You can expect anywhere from 5-8 horsepower with a new set of cats.
if you are going cheap might as well just put a straight pipe in there instead. cheaper and works better
3 - It helps improve slow... the factory single snorkle filter canister on top of my 82 TransAm was ridiculous... extremely restrictive... I suggest a moderate sized open element with just a regular paper filter. $20 bucks from the parts store.. and improved flow at ALL rpms.
the open element will improve flow but you still can lose power. the snork was drawing in cold air while the open element might just be drawing in a lot of hot air. now either way you might ber drawing the better volume of air through the open element but the mass of air might go down.... both are important.so what would be better is a dual snork or get a really good size single snork over a filter. also a paper element is going to cut down on flow and suck when there is dirt on the system for just a few extra buck you could get a K&N
4 - The one in particular that I'm thinking of is the Edelbrock 3701 intake.. you can purchase this OFF THE SHELF from Discount Auto Parts new in the box for $104 dollars. They also sell the 2102 intake, same as the 3701 but for NON EGR purposes, that one is $102 dollars. Expect ~5-6 horsepower increase from the intake, more if used in conjunction with other performance parts.
5 - Roller rockers... the EASIEST way to improve horsepower using the car's factory grind. The ones in particular that I suggest are the Crane Roller Rockers. You can get them in a set of either 1.52:1 or 1.6:1. You won't see THAT much more performance with the 1.52:1 since I believe the factory stamping is 1.5 but you'll still notice some difference. It produces LESS friction on the engine which allows the motor to get up in teh RPMS much more efficiently which equates to more power. The 1.6:1 will definitely help, and you WILL notice a big difference in power. Summit Racing, last I checked had them for about $129 dollars.
All in all, that comes out to $503 dollars! And you just improved your fuel economy, horsepower.. and driveability.
Expect at LEAST a second off your car's stock quarter mile time.
All of that can be done without digging INTO the engine itself.
The hardest installs are the roller rockers, and the headers. But with an experienced friend or neighbor, it shouldn't be too hard.
Todd,
1997 Pontiac GrandAm SE
1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6
1984 Pontiac Fiero 2m4 SE *WS6*
1981 Pontiac TransAm (350sbc)
http://community.webshots.com/user/todd82ta
I did this to my 82 TransAm before the motor blew....
1 - Headers
2 - Free-flow Catalytic converters
3 - Open element air cleaner.
4 - Free-flow Intake
5 - Roller Rockers
1 - For headers, I suggest a set of FlowTECH headers. They sell them, special order through JC Whitney. I used a set on my 82 TransAm, and then ended up selling them. You can get the ENTIRE set, for your f-body WITH the corresponding larger diameter Y-pipe for $200 dollars SHIPPED to your house. $200 bucks includes the headers, the y-pipe and ALL the mounting hardware. If you want to keep your AIR injection fittings, they can sell them to you with the holes for an additional $20 bucks. They can also put an O2 sensor hole in them for $10 bucks. You just have to ask them. On an otherwise completely stock 82 LG4 V8, you can expect around 20-25 horsepower. More if used with other mods.
2 - Free flow catalytic converters... you wouldn't believe how restrictive the old BRICK style cats are... you can gain MUCH more power and flow by replacing the cats with NEW free-flow aftermarket cats, than you would by replacing the entire cat-back exhaust with a Borla. People always forget that the cats are a huge bottleneck in this older cars. They also think that by GUTTING them.. that it's helping them, when instead it's creating a huge flow distortion in the exhaust. Replace the cats with aftermarket free-flow cats, or get straight pipes. These are about $50 bucks each. You can expect anywhere from 5-8 horsepower with a new set of cats.
if you are going cheap might as well just put a straight pipe in there instead. cheaper and works better
3 - It helps improve slow... the factory single snorkle filter canister on top of my 82 TransAm was ridiculous... extremely restrictive... I suggest a moderate sized open element with just a regular paper filter. $20 bucks from the parts store.. and improved flow at ALL rpms.
the open element will improve flow but you still can lose power. the snork was drawing in cold air while the open element might just be drawing in a lot of hot air. now either way you might ber drawing the better volume of air through the open element but the mass of air might go down.... both are important.so what would be better is a dual snork or get a really good size single snork over a filter. also a paper element is going to cut down on flow and suck when there is dirt on the system for just a few extra buck you could get a K&N
4 - The one in particular that I'm thinking of is the Edelbrock 3701 intake.. you can purchase this OFF THE SHELF from Discount Auto Parts new in the box for $104 dollars. They also sell the 2102 intake, same as the 3701 but for NON EGR purposes, that one is $102 dollars. Expect ~5-6 horsepower increase from the intake, more if used in conjunction with other performance parts.
5 - Roller rockers... the EASIEST way to improve horsepower using the car's factory grind. The ones in particular that I suggest are the Crane Roller Rockers. You can get them in a set of either 1.52:1 or 1.6:1. You won't see THAT much more performance with the 1.52:1 since I believe the factory stamping is 1.5 but you'll still notice some difference. It produces LESS friction on the engine which allows the motor to get up in teh RPMS much more efficiently which equates to more power. The 1.6:1 will definitely help, and you WILL notice a big difference in power. Summit Racing, last I checked had them for about $129 dollars.
All in all, that comes out to $503 dollars! And you just improved your fuel economy, horsepower.. and driveability.
Expect at LEAST a second off your car's stock quarter mile time.
All of that can be done without digging INTO the engine itself.
The hardest installs are the roller rockers, and the headers. But with an experienced friend or neighbor, it shouldn't be too hard.
Todd,
1997 Pontiac GrandAm SE
1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6
1984 Pontiac Fiero 2m4 SE *WS6*
1981 Pontiac TransAm (350sbc)
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now I know the thigns I said might cost a little more but hte cost difference is negotiable. and with me I would rather save up and get a the part I want with the better quality then something that will just hold me off. and with the price difference being so little I would easily wait till I had the few extra bux
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LOL!!! I saw that the other day so I called them about 3 times telling then "that thing doesnt work" The operator said how do you know if you never tried it? I just said "I know...." LOL that was about the funniest thing all day! It adds 20HP you know!
LOL!!! I saw that the other day so I called them about 3 times telling then "that thing doesnt work" The operator said how do you know if you never tried it? I just said "I know...." LOL that was about the funniest thing all day! It adds 20HP you know!
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is that tornado thing an electric motor? how much rpms does it get up to? I can see it helping below 2000-2500rpm, but after that it's just a restriction.
Open element filters aren't the best, but they are definatly way better than the stock single snorkle air cleaners.
Open element filters aren't the best, but they are definatly way better than the stock single snorkle air cleaners.
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No, the tornado air is just a $60 dollar piece of aluminum shaped like fan blades that you shove in the way of the air passage.
An open element air filter is WAY better than a single snorkle filter.
The only reason why an open element air filter would be BAD is because it lets in hot engine air...
however, that hot engine air is still a million times better than sucking air through a straw.
Which can you do, breath better through a straw? or in a sauna?
Todd
An open element air filter is WAY better than a single snorkle filter.
The only reason why an open element air filter would be BAD is because it lets in hot engine air...
however, that hot engine air is still a million times better than sucking air through a straw.
Which can you do, breath better through a straw? or in a sauna?
Todd
Which can you do, breath better through a straw? or in a sauna?
You know of any good shops around the Ft. Lauderdale area?
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From: Manassas, VA
Car: 89 Formula Firebird
Engine: 305 - Demon 525
Transmission: 700R4
Originally posted by 82-T/A [Work]
I had a friend that bought a Tornado air, and he saved SOOO much in fuel costs.. he improved fuel economy by 30%!
He decided to get a couple more.. he eventually installed one in EACH carburetor bore, and then one LARGE one in the open element air filter.
It got to the point that he was saving soo much fuel, that it began to convert the oxygen and fumes in the tank, into actual gasoline... this kept on, and eventually, his gas tank started making it's OWN gas.. and it started overflowing, and his car blew up and he died....
Todd
I had a friend that bought a Tornado air, and he saved SOOO much in fuel costs.. he improved fuel economy by 30%!
He decided to get a couple more.. he eventually installed one in EACH carburetor bore, and then one LARGE one in the open element air filter.
It got to the point that he was saving soo much fuel, that it began to convert the oxygen and fumes in the tank, into actual gasoline... this kept on, and eventually, his gas tank started making it's OWN gas.. and it started overflowing, and his car blew up and he died....
Todd
I just cant see how this works. What does spining air make the air more dence? 
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the spinning air is supposed to act like a vortec(tornado) by mixing the gas and oxygen better to get a better more complete combustion which equals more power and better gas mileage. i think its a good IDEA...but poor execution.
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Jeez.... you guys are COMPLETELY missed the whole point of this post. He posted FIVE WAYS of making your car faster. Now all of you have to turn it into a flame way and into a kid's game of "my toy is better and more expensive then yours".
I have $179 dollar Hookers on my car. They're JUST FINE. I also have a cheap Edelbrock RPM intake. What he posted is accurate and right to the point. Why turn it into a friggin pissing match ?!?!?
I have $179 dollar Hookers on my car. They're JUST FINE. I also have a cheap Edelbrock RPM intake. What he posted is accurate and right to the point. Why turn it into a friggin pissing match ?!?!?
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i didnt see a pissing match going on....did you?? all i saw was people telling there opinions on a product that he was recomending. they didnt want others to get the impression that they are the best out there...now please excuse me while i go take a ****.
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"cheap" can be taken in many ways. some dont see y you would spend money on a cheap part when you can get a good one for a few more bucks. look at it HP per dollar wise also. say you got the flowtechs...then did more mods later...you might have to replace the flow's to something better like SLP. the flows have smaller primaries which can choke a high HP engine. so whats cheaper, buying FLOWS then something better later...or just buying the BETTER first?? its all in the eye of the beholder.
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Car: 99 Formula
Engine: LS1
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 342
Originally posted by cort351w
I don't understand why the guy put up this post in the first place.
I don't understand why the guy put up this post in the first place.
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I like his ideas as they are sound. But if you are going to pull the intake and the exhaust manifolds then you might as well pull the heads and port them. You'll notice I didn't say replace them. This is, after all, a "low cost" performance post.
One thing that I have done on my car was to change my stock air cleaner assembly from a single snorkel to a dual snorkel like a L69. Since I already had a few old air cleaners lying around (from cars I had junked years ago) it was a free mod. The snorkel came from a '71 Pontiac Grandville 455 and the hose and pickup from a '89 Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser 307. One of these days I'll find the proper parts but for the time being it works.
Thanks for the input, Todd! Because without people posting their ideas, good as well as bad, there would be no reason for this forum to exist.
One thing that I have done on my car was to change my stock air cleaner assembly from a single snorkel to a dual snorkel like a L69. Since I already had a few old air cleaners lying around (from cars I had junked years ago) it was a free mod. The snorkel came from a '71 Pontiac Grandville 455 and the hose and pickup from a '89 Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser 307. One of these days I'll find the proper parts but for the time being it works.
Thanks for the input, Todd! Because without people posting their ideas, good as well as bad, there would be no reason for this forum to exist.
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Car: 83Z28 HO
Engine: Magnacharged Dart Little M 408
Transmission: G Force 5 speed
Axle/Gears: Moser 9" w/Detroit Trutrac
NOW - everyone is saying that Edelbrocks SUCK! 
I just ordered a set of TES's for mine, nickel plated for $410.00 from Summit.
What's wrong with them?? I've read numerous other posts that said they're decent headers...
As I read this post, it seems as if I wasted my money.
I just ordered a set of TES's for mine, nickel plated for $410.00 from Summit.
What's wrong with them?? I've read numerous other posts that said they're decent headers...
As I read this post, it seems as if I wasted my money.
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! ! ! ! WOW ! ! !
Pissing contests, death, dismemberment, SEX.
Oh, nobody mentioned sex yet. :sillylol:
Anyway, some of us are on a budget, and to say " well it is only a few dollars more" dis-regards the common problem of scrapping together enough money to put the project together in the first place.
If you didn't do it till you can get the "good stuff", the logical conclusion would be an 8 second 600 horse, pavement burner that gets 30 mpg. And it would be completed after your retirement party.
I've got Flowtechs on my Z, and I'm happier than a dog sniffing a turd on the sidewalk.
I bought the "cheap" Summit copy of the Edelbrock Performer camshaft, BUT I should have taken the heads off and used my die grinder on them to make them flow like a big fat girl during her "special time". At least that's what some would suggest. Never mind the fact that I have no idea where the water passages are, or if I would have been able to make all the ports uniform enough not to induce a lean condition in some cylinders and rich in others.
And while I'm on my rant, Getting back to the restrictive Flowtechs, I've got a 350 waiting for the 305 to go "BOOM", and I'm gonna re-use the Flowtechs cause they fit Very well, I didn't have to grind on my steering shaft, (what a @$#^^ idiot) nor did I have to massage them with a hammer to get them to fit.
AND to top it all off, my Z is pretty quick. mid to high 14's ain't nothing to sneeze at. Yes, there are quicker cars, but I have fun with the "cheap mods" that I've used.
SO, NANYA NANYA NANNNYYAAAA :lala: :lala: :lala: :sillylol: :sillylol:
Pissing contests, death, dismemberment, SEX.
Oh, nobody mentioned sex yet. :sillylol:
Anyway, some of us are on a budget, and to say " well it is only a few dollars more" dis-regards the common problem of scrapping together enough money to put the project together in the first place.
If you didn't do it till you can get the "good stuff", the logical conclusion would be an 8 second 600 horse, pavement burner that gets 30 mpg. And it would be completed after your retirement party.
I've got Flowtechs on my Z, and I'm happier than a dog sniffing a turd on the sidewalk.
I bought the "cheap" Summit copy of the Edelbrock Performer camshaft, BUT I should have taken the heads off and used my die grinder on them to make them flow like a big fat girl during her "special time". At least that's what some would suggest. Never mind the fact that I have no idea where the water passages are, or if I would have been able to make all the ports uniform enough not to induce a lean condition in some cylinders and rich in others.
And while I'm on my rant, Getting back to the restrictive Flowtechs, I've got a 350 waiting for the 305 to go "BOOM", and I'm gonna re-use the Flowtechs cause they fit Very well, I didn't have to grind on my steering shaft, (what a @$#^^ idiot) nor did I have to massage them with a hammer to get them to fit.
AND to top it all off, my Z is pretty quick. mid to high 14's ain't nothing to sneeze at. Yes, there are quicker cars, but I have fun with the "cheap mods" that I've used.
SO, NANYA NANYA NANNNYYAAAA :lala: :lala: :lala: :sillylol: :sillylol:
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From: Calgary, Alberta, Republic of Western Canada
Car: 1986 Sport Coupé
Engine: 305-4v
Transmission: 700R4 and TransGo2
Originally posted by Confuzed1
NOW - everyone is saying that Edelbrocks SUCK!
I just ordered a set of TES's for mine, nickel plated for $410.00 from Summit.
What's wrong with them?? I've read numerous other posts that said they're decent headers...
As I read this post, it seems as if I wasted my money.
NOW - everyone is saying that Edelbrocks SUCK!
I just ordered a set of TES's for mine, nickel plated for $410.00 from Summit.
What's wrong with them?? I've read numerous other posts that said they're decent headers...
As I read this post, it seems as if I wasted my money.
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From: Caldwell,ID
Car: 2005 BMW 545i
Engine: 4.4L N62B44
Transmission: 6spd auto
Axle/Gears: Rotating
Originally posted by jeffs82z28
Anyway, some of us are on a budget, and to say " well it is only a few dollars more" dis-regards the common problem of scrapping together enough money to put the project together in the first place.
If you didn't do it till you can get the "good stuff", the logical conclusion would be an 8 second 600 horse, pavement burner that gets 30 mpg. And it would be completed after your retirement party.
Anyway, some of us are on a budget, and to say " well it is only a few dollars more" dis-regards the common problem of scrapping together enough money to put the project together in the first place.
If you didn't do it till you can get the "good stuff", the logical conclusion would be an 8 second 600 horse, pavement burner that gets 30 mpg. And it would be completed after your retirement party.
I'm on a budget as well
but I don't go out and buy the cheap stuff just b/c I can afford it at the moment
I could have went out and bought pacesetter headers for 140 or so
I waited till I had enough for the racing beat headers... a MUCH BETTER product
they cost me about 200
see that is not much of a difference
now if I really wanted to get the good shizz I would have went out and bought the mindtrain headers for about 300 bucks... but to me it wasn't worth it. but on the other hand the extra 40 I spent on the RB headers was worth it
it's playing smart with your budget.
you see what parts you want to wait to scrap up that extra 40 bucks or so or then get it. and which parts are not going to be worth it to save up for...
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Man, some of you guys are seriously acting like children..
MAYBE.. just maybe some of you live at home, don't really have any expenses, no car payments, no rent, no water, power, phone, etc...
ME... I'm 24... I'm saving up for an engagement ring, I have a car payment on my newer car, I have an $800 dollar rent payment, and all the other bills I mentioned. And with a $46,000 annual income, I can't exactly afford to go out and purchase a set of $410 dollar Nickle plated Tes Edelbrock Headers for my 3rd gen.
This post was made EXACTLY for what the subject says.... "5 WAYS TO BOOST POWER IN YOUR CAR CHEAP!!!"
CHEAP IS THE KEY WORD....
Not EVERYONE on this list, and I'm pretty damn sure not everyone bitching on this forum has a 3rd gen SHOW CAR. And I don't see the point of putting $410 dollar Edelbrock TES Headers in an old beat up car that probably has over 100 thousand miles.
With the money I save by buying FlowTECHs, I can use the rest of the money for things like... OH!!! A nice Edelbrock 3701 intake manifold for $104 bucks!! And hey... I can still get that Open element air filter.
And I can ASSURE you, with my $410 dollars, and YOUR $410 dollars... I'm going to go a hell of a lot faster than you are.
So you can bitch, whip out the calculator like a riceboy when you get your *** kicked and say.. "But I spent more money!!"
Todd
MAYBE.. just maybe some of you live at home, don't really have any expenses, no car payments, no rent, no water, power, phone, etc...
ME... I'm 24... I'm saving up for an engagement ring, I have a car payment on my newer car, I have an $800 dollar rent payment, and all the other bills I mentioned. And with a $46,000 annual income, I can't exactly afford to go out and purchase a set of $410 dollar Nickle plated Tes Edelbrock Headers for my 3rd gen.
This post was made EXACTLY for what the subject says.... "5 WAYS TO BOOST POWER IN YOUR CAR CHEAP!!!"
CHEAP IS THE KEY WORD....
Not EVERYONE on this list, and I'm pretty damn sure not everyone bitching on this forum has a 3rd gen SHOW CAR. And I don't see the point of putting $410 dollar Edelbrock TES Headers in an old beat up car that probably has over 100 thousand miles.
With the money I save by buying FlowTECHs, I can use the rest of the money for things like... OH!!! A nice Edelbrock 3701 intake manifold for $104 bucks!! And hey... I can still get that Open element air filter.
And I can ASSURE you, with my $410 dollars, and YOUR $410 dollars... I'm going to go a hell of a lot faster than you are.
So you can bitch, whip out the calculator like a riceboy when you get your *** kicked and say.. "But I spent more money!!"
Todd
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lol
sorry I found that rather funny
He's got a point, kids. Cheap was the key word. I'm seriously thinking about getting Flows now, sounds like good bang for buck, and that's what I like to go for.... and I've now heard more than one reccomendation on 'em.
sorry I found that rather funny
He's got a point, kids. Cheap was the key word. I'm seriously thinking about getting Flows now, sounds like good bang for buck, and that's what I like to go for.... and I've now heard more than one reccomendation on 'em.
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Car: 00 TA, 91 Formula, 89 RS
Engine: LS1 / 305 / 2.8, respectively
Transmission: T-56 / auto / auto
Oh, by the way, where those the only mods you did to your car, and what did it run on the quarter mile? Just curious.
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FyreLance,
I originally had a 1982 Pontiac TransAm.
It was an LU5 V8, the one that came with the Cross Fire Injection. However, by the time "I" got the car, it had exactly 149,XXX miles on it.. and it had been "converted"
By converted, I mean that it had the computer ripped out, but they never replaced the distributor with a non computer controlled one, so it had NO timing advance. They replaced the intake and TBIs with a factory GM intake, and a non computer controlled Rochester QuadroJET.
Mine was actually a RECARO TransAm.
I got it for $800 bucks.. heh...
First thing I did was replace the distributor with one from an old mid 70s Chevy Van with a vacuum advance. I then swapped out the intake with a 3701 Edelbrock Intake.
My next modification was to replace the catalytic converter and swapped it out with a hi-flow cat from the local muffler shop. They installed it for me for $10 bucks and charged me only $40 some odd dollars for the cat itself.
My next modification was a Dynomax muffler with factory exhaust piping, the old muffler was rusted out at the welds.
NEXT was an open element air filter to replace the single snorkle someone stuck on there... I actually noticed a decent amount of difference with that.
My next mod after that were the FlowTECHs.. which worked AWESOME!! Man.. I can't tell you how much of a difference that made in performance.. it was NIGHT AND DAY....
Next modification was roller rockers, I got a set from Summit Racing.
About half way through that, I decided to get a whole new cam and went with one of those Fireball cams or something from JC Whitney. I got new lifters and pushrods too. At that same time, I purchased a Purlator external fuel pump to replace the mechanical fuel pump.
I hooked everything up, and got it running... UNBELIEVABLE difference..... it literally threw me in the seat...
I don't know if my car came with POSI stock or not.. but when I had it, it had a posi unit already... maybe just Recaros had it...
By the way, mine had mismatched PMD seats in it, someone snagged the Recaro seats before I got it.
Anyway, my friend had a Gtech and with that we consistantly got high 14s / low 15s in the quarter with an LG4 V8.
I ended up swapping out the rochester quadrojet (700cfm model) with a Holley 600cfm Single Pumper carb, and that made a difference too....
All in all, I spent about ~900 bucks on all the modifications I made. I did nearly all the work myself however.
Todd
I originally had a 1982 Pontiac TransAm.
It was an LU5 V8, the one that came with the Cross Fire Injection. However, by the time "I" got the car, it had exactly 149,XXX miles on it.. and it had been "converted"
By converted, I mean that it had the computer ripped out, but they never replaced the distributor with a non computer controlled one, so it had NO timing advance. They replaced the intake and TBIs with a factory GM intake, and a non computer controlled Rochester QuadroJET.
Mine was actually a RECARO TransAm.
I got it for $800 bucks.. heh...
First thing I did was replace the distributor with one from an old mid 70s Chevy Van with a vacuum advance. I then swapped out the intake with a 3701 Edelbrock Intake.
My next modification was to replace the catalytic converter and swapped it out with a hi-flow cat from the local muffler shop. They installed it for me for $10 bucks and charged me only $40 some odd dollars for the cat itself.
My next modification was a Dynomax muffler with factory exhaust piping, the old muffler was rusted out at the welds.
NEXT was an open element air filter to replace the single snorkle someone stuck on there... I actually noticed a decent amount of difference with that.
My next mod after that were the FlowTECHs.. which worked AWESOME!! Man.. I can't tell you how much of a difference that made in performance.. it was NIGHT AND DAY....
Next modification was roller rockers, I got a set from Summit Racing.
About half way through that, I decided to get a whole new cam and went with one of those Fireball cams or something from JC Whitney. I got new lifters and pushrods too. At that same time, I purchased a Purlator external fuel pump to replace the mechanical fuel pump.
I hooked everything up, and got it running... UNBELIEVABLE difference..... it literally threw me in the seat...
I don't know if my car came with POSI stock or not.. but when I had it, it had a posi unit already... maybe just Recaros had it...
By the way, mine had mismatched PMD seats in it, someone snagged the Recaro seats before I got it.
Anyway, my friend had a Gtech and with that we consistantly got high 14s / low 15s in the quarter with an LG4 V8.
I ended up swapping out the rochester quadrojet (700cfm model) with a Holley 600cfm Single Pumper carb, and that made a difference too....
All in all, I spent about ~900 bucks on all the modifications I made. I did nearly all the work myself however.
Todd
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Car: 89 Formula Firebird
Engine: 305 - Demon 525
Transmission: 700R4
What do ya'll think about these Hooker comp headers for 141.0?
On my stock Firebird there probably wont be much of a difference between these and the flashy $400.00 dollar headers. I can take that extra 250.00 that I would save and buy something that will really make the difference. Like an intake manifold & spacer. Possibly save up for some heads. So I'm all for the cheaper heads. Give the engine something that it needs. Parts that move make the difference and the pipes shouldn’t have that much to do with it. I don’t think my car is ready to spend that much on some headers yet.
What do you techs think about this?
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On my stock Firebird there probably wont be much of a difference between these and the flashy $400.00 dollar headers. I can take that extra 250.00 that I would save and buy something that will really make the difference. Like an intake manifold & spacer. Possibly save up for some heads. So I'm all for the cheaper heads. Give the engine something that it needs. Parts that move make the difference and the pipes shouldn’t have that much to do with it. I don’t think my car is ready to spend that much on some headers yet.
What do you techs think about this?
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Find out if they offer a Y-pipe or H-pipe for your car as well.. if not, then you'll have to have one custom made, and it will just end up being more expensive.
The $200 FlowTECHS come with the Y-pipe AND headers.
Todd
The $200 FlowTECHS come with the Y-pipe AND headers.
Todd
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Originally posted by Mark A Shields
Not everyone is lookin for a monster engine, and sometimes you don't need to spend a whole lot of money I guess.
Not everyone is lookin for a monster engine, and sometimes you don't need to spend a whole lot of money I guess.
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Good for you, those are all great tips. Im too am on a budget. I purchased $109 hedman headers against almost every vette owners advice. They all said get the 400 dollar hookers or the 700 dollar tpi's ones. Get real.
The headers are in my garage and look pretty decent. They are going on the car this weekend. Im also swapping the cam for a summit version, 1.6 rockers, ported heads, new valves, new springs. I maybe spent 6-700 on everything, only cause I splurged a bit. Im
expecting 40-50hp, and will be happy as a pig in sh*t if thats all i get.
The headers are in my garage and look pretty decent. They are going on the car this weekend. Im also swapping the cam for a summit version, 1.6 rockers, ported heads, new valves, new springs. I maybe spent 6-700 on everything, only cause I splurged a bit. Im
expecting 40-50hp, and will be happy as a pig in sh*t if thats all i get.
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To begin with I actualy work at JC Whitney and work with the parts above mentioned. I had picked up the above mentioned flotecks out the lot sale(returned items) for $35. The in stock product is about $118 and does NOT include the y-pipe. The tubing is black painted and of decent gage, but is 1 5/8 OD. With a 2 1/4 OD colector flange. Good enough for mostly stock 305's and definatly better the stock but still not worth it for hot(230hp+) 305 or any 350. I don't know about fit because I sold them about a week later for $50. They also come with foam/paper gaskets that don't even look like they could work. BTW they come with a bung for the O2 sensor free of charge you just have to drill out the inside.
Also in the time I 've worked there (2yrs) and all the old catologs I've looked through I've never seen a "fireball" cam of anything close. We do sell a seris of cams called Blazer made by Crane cams. Other than that a couple of "high torque" and "fuel saver" cams made Elgin.
It would be cheaper and easier not to mention faster to just order a set of hookers and there y-pipe form Jegs for $220. Then deal with trying to place an order through specail orders. And if you need to return or exchange it its a regular order that can be done in a week maybe two not a month.
Your call, your money, not mine.
Also in the time I 've worked there (2yrs) and all the old catologs I've looked through I've never seen a "fireball" cam of anything close. We do sell a seris of cams called Blazer made by Crane cams. Other than that a couple of "high torque" and "fuel saver" cams made Elgin.
It would be cheaper and easier not to mention faster to just order a set of hookers and there y-pipe form Jegs for $220. Then deal with trying to place an order through specail orders. And if you need to return or exchange it its a regular order that can be done in a week maybe two not a month.
Your call, your money, not mine.
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From: Calgary, Alberta, Republic of Western Canada
Car: 1986 Sport Coupé
Engine: 305-4v
Transmission: 700R4 and TransGo2
An essential thing to check when purchasing headers is to find out what thickness the mounting flange is. Some brands cheap out here and only use 1/4" metal, which has a tendancy to warp under heat. Find headers that use at least 3/8" metal for the flanges. Hooker does, as do most of the name brands.
Another essential is to get at least 1 5/8" inside diameter primary tubes. 1 1/2" tubes are only ok for a mild 305, whereas 1 5/8" tubes work extremely well to more than 450 hp on many small blocks, not restricting the exhaust nor reducing torque or hp.
Another essential is to get at least 1 5/8" inside diameter primary tubes. 1 1/2" tubes are only ok for a mild 305, whereas 1 5/8" tubes work extremely well to more than 450 hp on many small blocks, not restricting the exhaust nor reducing torque or hp.