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Old Sep 29, 2002 | 03:44 PM
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Weird problem with not starting

Ok i have a 1990 Camaro RS with the 3.1L 6 banger. Evey once in a while ill be drinving around, Ill shut the car off, do whatever i stopped for, come out and it wont start. I wont get any juice to the starter at all. Its not the battery, beacue all the lights stay on and dont dim when i hit the key. And its an optima so i dont think thats the problem. Then i figured it the starter so ive changed that a few times now, but theres no way its blowing away starters that fast, plus ive had them tested at my work(pepboys) and they test fine. Ive narrowed it down to 3 possible senerios,
#1 is the ignition itself, but i dont understand how that could cause it.
#2 is my year is the first year for the pass-key system with those keys with the computer chips in em, could that do it?
#3 is my alarm system, but when i switch the alarm totally off it still wont start so i have noidea at this point, has anyone had this problem or have any ideas for me?
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Old Sep 30, 2002 | 01:09 AM
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Personally, I'd take a very close look at #3. Alarm installations are seldom as reliable as the factory wiring. Scrutinize every connection and device, since they are typically using crimp connections instead of solder and the cheapest relays available.

#2 is not likely, unless the SECURITY lamp on the dash remains flashing when you attempt to start.

If you want to test out theory #1, watch the instruments when you try to crank the engine. Does the temperature gauge move to full-scale? If so, the cranking circuit is at least trying to work.

Item #4 is the clutch/neutral safety switch. If you have an auto trans, try starting in neutral instead of PARK.

Item #5 is the linkage for the ignition switch itself. If you have a tilt steering column, move the column to the lowest position before cranking to compensate for any wear in the linkage.
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Old Sep 30, 2002 | 01:51 AM
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Could it be the hot start problem? I know that in the V8's some have the problem of when restarting after driving a while, the starter will heat up and not start. It take 15-60 minutes to cool down, then starts fine. There is a soleniod relocation fix in the Tech articles here: https://www.thirdgen.org/newdesign/tech/solenoid.shtml
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Old Sep 30, 2002 | 10:47 AM
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If you suspect that, have an assistant try to crank the engine while you measure voltage at the starter solenoid. If you get voltage but no solenoid action, you could have a failing/weak solenoid pull-in coil.
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