Basically =)

So whats the fastest I can make my street car be without getting insane?

I like to race, but I don't want to take in a car to a serious race (right now I've just done friendly races) that is outmatched. How do I make my little IROC competition?

 

You picked an 87 IROC over a 2000 z28 for as you put it, loudness? Damn, the 2000 is bigger, faster, stronger in every way. Throw just a muffler on the LS1 and it would have been louder than that LG4.

 

oh and as far as inspection goes.. well for nj anyway.. what ya do is you have one car that will pass inspection... you bring it home.. take a hair dryer to the sticker and take it off with a razor blade.. the nj stickers are 2 piece stickers.. the actual sticker then the part with all the info on it.. the part with the info is printed on standard computer paper all you gotta do is scan the one ya got change the info n glue it on.. then just attach the sticker with some silicone.. thats how my cars get inspected... then ya just go back n tellem you put in a new junk yard windshield and didnt realize u had to keep the sticker.. and they give ya another 1.. just dont keep goin back to the same place

 

O_O Sneaky! But in NY I dont think that will work, though I have found that in NY when you register a car they give you a ten day extension to get the car inspected, problem is... the extension doesnt list when that extension started or runs out... I used the same extension of 4 months lol!

 

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I just test drove ANOTHER one of the 2000 Z28's and I do admit the car is much faster then mine... however... I cannot get fiananced and don't have 14500 to give them, otherwise I'd had a new car today.

 

O_o sneaky

 

When I registered my last car that DMV bitch wrote the expiration date on the 10 day sticker. Shouldnt be too hard to get done in NY, almost everybody "knows a guy".
Oh yeah, and 89RS, posting that sticker probly isnt the best idea in the world, but if it walks...good job.

 

o and once again.. jeeze all ya gotta do on here to get replys is have a decent set of **** n a pretty smile... why didnt i think of that? lol

 

So whens a good time for me to let you fix my car =D

 

Ah they never wrote it on the Beretta or Iroc.. as for knowing a guy I guess thats actually true! I can get my boy to let me slide... but then 8 mpg is the worse gas mileage i've heard since I bought my school bus... course the school bus can go from here to florida and halfway back before needing gas but thats just a big tank.

 

Told ya. With a school bus, who needs a camaro?

 

Sold the bus, it was actually a mobile home type thing I made and used for going on a Six Flags Road Trip, last year. 26 days, over 3000 miles and 10 six flags, defcon, and busch gardens =)

 

hehe what do i get outa the deal?

 

If you actually fix it I'll give ya 50 bucks? Or a cat? And I mean he animal sicko.

 

Catalytic converters arent that sick. Restrictive? Yes. Sick? No.

 

the man has a point. unless of course its a sick cat.

 

I mean a CAT; cute furry animal with four legs and tail that goes meow?

 

In that case, its covered here:
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...ht=cat+gutting
Referring of course to 89RS's comment.

 

-becomes confused-

 

already have a cat. she is cute n furry n does have 4 legs n stuff.. but damn shes a lil bitch if she dont get enuf attention.

 

just looked at ur profile damn ur a lot older then me. a month n a day.. i feel all lil now thanks

 

I guess all of us Poncho drivers don't have a place on this thread.

 

gta huh? poncho? i think i gota mickey mouse 1 from disney world around somewhere.. its yellow. how would i go about driving it?

 

Dont worry, ill represent the Poncho crew in what has become a highly off-topic but entertaining thread.

 

By the time you two were born I had been out of HS for 3 years.

 

Sorry, Pontiac hasn't been a Poncho since the 70's...now its just a Chevy with a different name

 

hmm yeah but back to the topic... kinda strayed there for a bit.. i'd pretty much go with what everyones sayin.. maybe the lock up.. but since you had pepboys install a carb im bettin on they did a REALLY good job tunin it up for ya.. bein pep boys n all... might just need a tunin or could be a vaccum leak somewhere... if u'd actually like to drive up here tho i'd give it a shot n see what i can do.. cant really do nothin bout the lock up tho casue i dont really have anywhere to pull the tranny..could at least figure out if its ur problem tho.. could pull it at work but they get pissed when i bring my own stuff in.. lol... i dunno pm me or somethin

 

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yup burnout.. defently stickin with the topic

 

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Where do firebirds come into this thread O_o... either way I went out and looked over the engine, couldnt convince the air filter holder to come off so that I could get a good look at the carburator.

 

Daggonit I'm lost one minute we are talking bi's,then Cats(the furry ones, then Poncho's now somebody doesn't recognize their carb! It's a q-jet that needs tuned badly and People here are to affraid after watching all those Soprano's to come to NJ to fix it.
I wish I lived in Jersey with a bi(or 2) and had a broken down camaro.(Hopefully a Bulletproof vest wouldn't be asking to much)



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Just couldnt get the air holder off, I know what a carb is.. as for the off-topic stuff its all in good fun =)

 

before you get in way over your head with that 700hp motor, reread my earlier post about how i'd build your car. the 700hp motor will not be streetable and WILL destroy everything behind it- trans, rear, suspension and from the twisting force it will crack your roof

 

WHO LET THE DOGS OUT!!!!

 

and with that this thread has reached a new low.

 

I think I'll jump in for a second of true advice before this thread is closed. Don't waste time on that engine you got right now. I really doubt that its running 11's. In fact in its current condition, I would be scared of lining up with any rustangs or even civics...
On the bright side however, you do have 7000 to spend. Thats not going to get you a 700hp engine, you'd be surprised how much 400+ hp can get you. I too live in NJ and there are plenty of speed shops and junkyards to help you out. In fact central NJ is FULL of great junkyards. Sucks that I live in Northern NJ but whatever. Get yourself another block, since you've got some cash try to get a 87+ block so you can take advantage of better cams. Look at this as a learning experience, don't buy a crate engine, get a block out of the junkyard, buy an engine stand, and slowly put it together outside of the car Build it up starting from the bottom to the top. Invest that money in good heads, cam, and intake. Given the hastle, cost, and your experience, it probablly be easier to keep it a carb. With some really good matched heads and cam, with a big enough carb, you can put down some serious power, and learn alot along the process. Take your extra cash and use it to transfer that power to the ground...tranny, suspension, tires, rear end.

 

I totally agree with MrNova.
I wouldn't go to any spanish speaking message boards with that screen name though, MrNova means Mr No Go.

 

i agree, this thread scares me.

 

how does this thread scare you? frady cat, so irocubabe figured out whats wrong with you car yet? if you really want to fix you car email me of what your problems are and i will help you

 

Hey now don't dis my baby! In south Jersey everyone and their sisters own souped up imports, and stangs, and every where I go at night, because of the undercarriage lights, I am ALWAYS getting challenaged. Today I got challenaged by a Mustang GT near the deptford mall at a light, smoked them no problem. Driving in the left hand lane and a retard in a import of some kind (coudlnt see which kind) pulls hard into the lane next to me, comes up to match my speed (60) does some retarded rev the engine with the brakes on so he doesnt actually speed up and then revs it and takes off. I bit the bait (I cant let idiots that challenage me like that win when I've got 2 miles of open road on all sides) and easily beat him. She runs alright, not at her peak, but she can take her normal quota of imports and fords daily

As for the engine suggestion, I'd be kinda hard pressed to do that, I decided not to get the 700 hp engine for my car; but getting a junkyard engine wouldn't that jsut be putting me right back at the engine having something wrong with it every few months because of age?

I was thinking more of getting an LS1 like in the 2000 Z28 and adding stuff to it? Or is this not a good idea... remember I know NOTHING once so ever about engines. Other then HP=Acceleration

 

An LS1 swap is probablly gonna be too much of a pain for you, and expensive for what you get. Just because something its old or from the junkyard doesn't mean its broken. Get someone knowledgeable to inspect the block with you to make sure its ok. Or you could always by a new shortblock crate. I like the idea of a shortblock more then a full crate because its cheaper in the long run and you have more options/control.

 

I dont KNOW anyone that is knowledgeable around me! Thats the problem!

 

Wow.... just stumbled onto this thread....

With that kind of money a nice LT1/T56 swap (wiring harness, PCM and everything) including a heads/cam package would be within your budget and make one extremely fun IROC without being too much work.

It sounds like you will need some more knowledgable people to help you out with a project like that, but if you got the money, I'm sure there are people that will help you out. And the LT1/T56 is almost a direct bolt in with the proper T56 crossmember, a few electrical tweaks, fuel line mods, and a modified passenger side engine mount if you want to keep the A/C. Plus it can easily be made to pass emissions by tuning the PCM....... Check out Ebay for a full engine trans package as they pop up from time to time..... LS1/T56 packages are pretty easily had as well but require more modifications (read: MONEY) to get them in (mounts, exhaust).

Of course you could just swap in the LT1 and keep the existing transmission in the car.... That would make a nice combo as well (not as fun as the 6-speed though). LT1 engines can be had for DIRT CHEAP nowadays (LS1 availability has driven the LT1 prices down big time).

Oh...... and guns+Fbodies+girls = Pretty damn cool by me . Doesn't get much cooler, matter of fact.....

 

i dunno.... read the whole thing n get back to me. maybe u'll agree.

 

That sounds kinda fun, what kinda power would that type of system get me? =D I am all about the stallions baby ^_~ (Yes I know its ponies, but I am sorry but I laugh at 9-14 hh ponies. I own a 18 hh Percheron Stallion, and he is one hell of an intimidator so there)

 

Well the ammount of power depends alot on what cam/head combo you end up going with. Don't forget, the LT1 is a great intake for making more power at the high end. That also means you may need gears, and a manual tranny or a torque convertor to take advantage of that higher power.

 

Get this ****:

MystReaver: bah, wait till i get my mustang over there, ill learn yah what a ford kin too, and a clutchless five speed while im at it
MystReaver: i might make the road trip JUST to pit my ford against you
MystReaver: *cacklez madly*
Omniscience: Bring
Omniscience: it
MystReaver: yer on, my mustang, SHOULD rate at 1250 hp when im done, but its a cammer engine, you may top out, but that torque monster will be up to speed before you hit 100
MystReaver: only problem is i gotta granny shift her into 1st or my tires wont grab
Omniscience: hun
Omniscience: you plan on driving that ove rhere to race me?
MystReaver: no, i plan on towing it over there... you know what kinda mileage she gets, not to mention trying to drive her on the street
MystReaver: ill throw her on a trailer and haul her in me truck.. ALSO a ford bwuahahaha
Omniscience: thats what i thought
Omniscience: oh
Omniscience: then i shoudl expect you in 2005 with all the breaking down your fords will do ey?
MystReaver: stfu... that ole trucks made it to the east coast and back 4 times now, not a problem yet
Omniscience: uh huh
Omniscience:
Omniscience: Year of Mustang?
MystReaver: chevy people... gotta resort to **** talkin eh? cmon, let yer engine do da talkin
MystReaver: 69
Omniscience: I
Omniscience: am not
Omniscience: a
Omniscience: chevy person
Omniscience: I am a CAMARO girl
MystReaver: originally a 429 boss, but it had no engine when i got it
Omniscience: I have an iroc to rebuild
MystReaver: camaro, worse yet, only chevy ill give any credit was the vette... and thats just for the lines


>_< MUST NOT LOSE THIS!!!

 

So...

Is there some technical content to this thread?

Click, click....

Pardon my ignorance, but can't we normally get an entire tube chassis, quick-change rear, girdled block pro-stocker built in about this many posts? You gotta remember, I'm an old guy with a short attention span. My train of though generally consists of a caboose, and I sometimes have trouble recalling the firing order on a 5HP Briggs & Statton.

But that aside, we all know that 700HP would twist a ThirdGen unibody in half after about 30 launches, to the point where they'd wave you off the staging line.

Since you have a few problems with the function of the LG4, it probably would be better to get that running right first, then concentrate on massaging all the power out of a slightly better engine.

Since my recall isn't that good, let's review:

I'd suggest that you scan for error codes first. There's likely somthing there that will hint at the problem. You apparently have a fairly reliable ignition system, and a new or reman carburetor, as well as a new or reman ECM. I hope whoever installed the carb adjusted the TPS and MC solenoid correctly, or that could be all of your problems. I also hope that the ECM was a reliable replacement and the installed used your original EPROM when installing the replacement. Pep Boy's? It's a maybe...