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Old Feb 28, 2003 | 12:51 PM
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changing the firing order

i have been reading that you can change the firing order. i want to try the firing order from the ls1. i read that the crank configuration is the same, but are the camshaft lobes in the same spot. just wondering if anyone has tried/read about this change?
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Old Feb 28, 2003 | 01:09 PM
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No the cam is different; the combination of where the pistons are, and what the valves are doing in relation to the pistons, is what determines the firing order.

Look at the order 18436572; without changing the crank, the only thing you can do is to swap 2 cyls that are 4 positions apart in the order. e.g. you could exchange #4 & #7 by grinding the cam differently and putting the wires in the dist in the correct order (18736542)
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Old Feb 28, 2003 | 02:07 PM
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yea chevyhipo talks about it and says the ls1 is 18726543 and ours is 18436572 they change the 72 with the 43. i figured it would require a cam change but they make no statement about it.
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Old Mar 1, 2003 | 11:03 PM
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Why would you change the firing order? Is there any gain from doing that?
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Old Mar 1, 2003 | 11:29 PM
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according to chevy hipo yes there is a gain to be had. There is a slight gain to be had and a vibration reduction. It doesn't really give specifics though
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Old Mar 2, 2003 | 07:06 AM
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cross fire has always been a problem on SBCs between 5 and 7, maybe that's part of it.
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Old Mar 2, 2003 | 08:21 AM
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If you change the firing order, you still have that problem, you just move it from cylinders 5 and 7 to cylinders 1 and 3. I would think all you really get from that is having to buy a custom ground cam
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Old Mar 3, 2003 | 10:59 AM
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Probably get a different engine note [a unique sound], as well.
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Old Mar 3, 2003 | 12:28 PM
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If you're running a dual plane intake, you'll never see a difference. Same with the 1-3 change that black89ws6 pointed out. If you're running a single plane, the only gains you'll see are above 5500 RPM.

Pros have tried it multiple times, and the HP/$$ ratio just isn't worth it.
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