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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 08:11 PM
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383 stroker... Now what

I've been reading about stroker engines for a while and i'm rather intreaged. So i got to thinking, it cant possibly be as easy as having the engine and your good to go... so what i am asking is Hypotheticaly i have a 383 stroker engine is ready to go, what else must be done? Will it fit in a 91 camaro? Will i have to make space for the engine? Basicaly, what will i have to do besides having the engine to having it on the road. And how much extra cost will there be besides the engine. I'd like a realistic figure before i go thinking this is only gona be around 4 grand.

I'm only 17 and im realy just getting into the whole modding my car thing. If your interested i have a 91 camaro all stock, cept for a flowmaster exhaust. and before i go adding headers and a new cam i might as well add a decent engine so i get the most out of my money, since i'll prolly do those things after i get my new engine anyway = D.

P.S. i know im only 17 and ur prolly saying "where is he gona get the money" well, this summer im getting a damned good job
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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before i go adding headers and a new cam i might as well add a decent engine
That isn't how it works... that is the sure road to an expensive disappointment.

There's alot more to making a car fast than just glomming some other motor off into it. All of the other parts of the car that affect the engine have to do their job effectively too.

Don't think of headers as part of the engine. They are part of the car, without which the engine is limited to poor performance. In the case of your RS, you have one of the worst exhaust systems that exists for any small block Chevy motor; it's choking your 305, and will prevent any other motor from reaching its potential as well. In fact, the more potential the engine has, the more of it the exhaust will rob.

The correct way to mod a car, which is to say, the way that gets you the most bang for the buck, is to identify the part that limits its performance the most; then replace or otherwise upgrade that part with one that's no longer a limit, but at the same time is appropriate to the car's use; then repeat the process until your funds are exhausted. You'll find that alot of the things that have the greatest effect on how the car runs, are essentially invisible when the car is fully assembled.

In the case of your L03, the first thing you need to do is to get rid of the entire exhaust system, from the heads to the street. Replace it all at once with a chassis-specific system, BUT NOT FOR L03. Instead, get the headers and cat and cat-back for something like a 350 TPI. DO NOT get any parts that are directly compatible with what you have, as they will preserve the bottleneck, and cause you to waste your money.

The next thing you need is a set of gears. You most likely have 2.73 gears in your car if it's an auto trans. Those gears force the engine to always run at a very low RPM; and since it produces a certain amount of energy each time it turns, then the faster it turns (up to a point), the more power you get out of it. Higher ratio gears allow the engine to always be turning faster for any given car speed, and therefore producing more power all the time (except for very high speeds you'll never use anyway). 3.42 gears are a good choice for that kind of car, and will be adequate when you have a much better motor too.

After that, if it's an auto trans, you should look at a torque converter. A looser converter will alow the engine to reach a higher RPM (thereby producing more power) while the wheels are turning slowly or sitting still. In other words, it helps the car launch.

The next things are heads and cam. You may want to leave those alone until you replace the motor.

All of those things are even more necessary with a better motor. It's not like you'll get most of the benefit of a larger engine without them, and then you can do them at your leisure; rather, you can very possibly get more speed out of the motor you have now with these mods than you will out of a larger motor without these other things.

Don't make the mistake you're about to, and end up with one of those situations you see on this board where people write about how they spent all this money and are still getting beat by cars that shouldn't be able to beat them. It's usually because they left some critical thing undone, and it screwed up the total package.
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 09:05 PM
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 06:01 AM
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that totaly changed my whole opinion on modding my car :hail:

but, i wasnt going to do any of those modds at the moment anyway, i dont have any money. I was just curious as to waht had to be done to get a stroker on the road.

Thanks for all that wonderful advice though. I needed to hear it.

And the flowmaster on my car is choking it?
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 06:13 AM
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since you're young and not really planning on doing anything fopr a while pick up a book or two and read it and read the threads on here that apply to what you may want to do in the future.
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 08:19 AM
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Originally posted by Scotty562
And the flowmaster on my car is choking it?
very much so. flowmaster is the worst brand of mufflers out there. sure they sound good but flow is terrible. if your looking for a good sounding very high flowing exhaust look into a cutout. find a cheap 3 inch catback, then slap a 3 inch cutout on there and run it open all the time.the only thing better than a cutout for flow is open headers.
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 08:30 AM
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Ok, i'll start looking into that exhaust system right away, should i start looking at headers as well?
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 08:43 AM
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if you are going to do exhaust you should do it right the first time. i got a set of headman headers from ACS coatings off of ebay for just under 500 shipped. of course i got coated headers (which is a must for headers), o2 sensor bung welded in, i got the y pipe with coating. i am VERY happy with how the coating looks and hope it lasts a long time also. i would look into either the headmans like i got, or a set of SLP 1 3/4 inch headers, then get a decent 3 inch catback and then a 3 inch cutout.

my buddy has a 92 RS with the same 305. he has the 1 5/8 SLP shorty headers, a 3 inch catco brand catalytic converter, and the 3 inch hooker catback. it sounds VERY nice. and he dropped i think he said 5-7 tenths off his 1/4 mile time with just those mods.
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 12:40 PM
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i have heddmans, and i wouldn't recomend them simpy because they have a 2.5" y pipe.

buy a set of slp's or hooker shorties that have a 3" y-pipe.

get a hi-flow 3" cat (i.e. random technologies, catco, magnaflow/carsound)

and get a good 3" mandral bent aftermarket exhaust system.

i.e. slp, hooker, dynomax, banks, borla, etc.

that should be a good start.

depending on what you choose, you could spend as little as $650.

but no matter what engine you put in your car( given that it is a small block chevy) those exhaust mods will let it breath 100x better than the stock exhaust.
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