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Old Mar 13, 2004 | 02:50 PM
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Recon Performance Engines... any good?

alright guys, i've been told by a few people that these engines are pretty good engines. Are they? the short block i'm looking at has this to say about itself,

Said by Summit Racing

Recon's Remanufactured Chevy 350 short block features a 3.48" stroke Scat cast steel crank, 5.7" Scat I-Beam rods, Federal Mogul 9.4-1 compression (with 64cc head) flat top pistons, sealed power rings, and Clevite bearings.

RCN-71850RSM each $1,595.95
I can get an identical engine with heads and completly built with manifold for $3,195.95



This is what is said about it,
Said by Summit Racing

Chevrolet: 350, 350 HP, assembled engine

This Remanufactured, dyno-tested Chevy 350 features a seasoned 4-bolt block (honed with deck plates), cast crankshaft, Keith Black hypereutectic pistons, I-beam connecting rods with ARP bolts, Melling high volume oil pump, a Crane 222/234 degrees duration hydraulic camshaft, Clevite main and rod bearings, and Fel-Pro gaskets. You also get World Products Sportsman II heads, Pioneer 1.5 ratio rockers, an Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, a Dynagear double roller timing chain, an oil pan, valve covers, and a timing cover. Dyno sheet included.

Let me tell you what i want to do to this engine though. I'm prolly gonna be putting a 9-12PSI supercharger to this engine. Would either engine hold up to that stress?

Guys i'm gonna try to be helpful since i really dont know much about superchargers and the stress they add or whatever. I'll listen just tell me what i need to know.


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Old Mar 13, 2004 | 03:16 PM
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I would put the blower on your 305 you have now. Have some fun with the car and then switch it on to a 350 down the road.
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Old Mar 13, 2004 | 03:18 PM
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depends what the compression is on it.. it doesn't say there.. I thought you decided on the LT1 for 650 or whatever? I'd still go with a low mileage LT1 longblock for that price.. then use the left over money for a blower or twin turbo setup
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Old Mar 13, 2004 | 03:24 PM
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yeah the LT1 is still o my mind i just dont know. I will be spending about the same amount of money once the install is done anyways. I think i might just try the supercharger on the 305 first, then if i want to go LT1 sell it, theng et another supercharger. I dunno though. Superchargers sound very cool.




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Old Mar 13, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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Superchargers sound very cool.
That is the number one reason people drop a grand or two on one.
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 01:03 AM
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not to mention that they make your car run like a raped ape Too bad cops don't like them...so sad....so sad:lala:
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 01:06 AM
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Id skip the SC and get an inproved aftermarket TPI intake. Itll help alot. Youll also want to get a bunch of other stuff too if your going to be swapping a semi-decent 350 in.
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 11:28 AM
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NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Recon engines suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stay away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From anything made by Recon!!!!!!!!!!

Reason being no one I know has been happy with a recon pile of crap, this engine may make 300hp but replacing it multiple times to get one that doesent knock or blow head gaskets under a month will be an issue.

Sorry for the rant but Ive never put a recon engine in anything that has not had issues in fact today I'm running back into work to finish the 3rd recon engine install (3.8 buick) in less then 4 months on a customers car. 1st one they left the cam button off. Second engine never left the shop when we inspected it piston skirts were chewed up on no.3,6 & 2. I'm keeping my fingers crossed on this 3rd engine.



Anyway a SC 305 is a very nice ride. I have a friend that has a SC TPI 305 in a 75 camaro stock ported components that runs 12's at altitude with 3.73's and a TH400. Id be happy with that especially since this is his daily driver.
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 11:41 AM
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ok forged crackshaft, forged rods, i can get them. Lets do a price search-

GMPP Chevy SB 350, 1pc seal, 3.480 Stroke GM Forged Steel Crankshaft $514.95

Eagle SB-Chevy 5.700'' Bushed I-Beam Connecting Rods $265.99

GMPP SB Chevy, 350 Cast Iron 1-Piece Rear Seal Production Cylinder Block $624.95

SRP SB-Chevy Flat Top Forged Pistons $466.99



Those are the bare minimum of things but i need extra stuff like freeze plugs and stuff but that gives me a grand total for a relaly nice powerful engine,

$1872.88

Then you add all the rest fo the stuffs like heads freeze plugs, cam, and everyting and i'm in the ball park of,

$3950


Is that right guys???????



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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 11:54 AM
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Hmmmmm..... so see that the 305 setup can work. Maybe i should just rebuild the 305 and leave it like that. Prolly would be around the same price of buying a new engine however. I dunno. I'll try the SC 305 idea out first until it just gives out i guess, if it does, then go with a new rebuilt 350 or something. BUt it dont seem like that much to make an all forged block. I think thats what i'm gonna do.

But he said the guy was doing it on a stock 305. Maybe i can get away with using a low compression GMPP Goodwrench Engine

1992-93 Caprice, Fleetwood 5.7L / 350 GM Goodwrench Crate Engine $1575.18

It says that they were commonly used in 87-92 Camaros/Firebirds, and were also used as replacements for the originals. SO i guess that means that people havebeen using them. It seems like a good engine, however its not forged at all but it a perfect replacement for what i need. Will do the job for a few years or more.




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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 11:56 AM
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Or i could go witha good ole L31, nice 4 bolt main, vortec heads engine used in 1996-00 3/4 - 1 Ton Pick-Ups. Seems likea nice deal. Then i can go with the SDPC vortec TPI baseplate for my setup. That'll be really nice. Its only-
$2,203.95



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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 02:44 PM
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that caprice engine shouldn't ever be used in a proformance application.. unless you really like changing everything in it..
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 04:40 PM
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what about that good ole 3/4ton-1 ton truck engine?
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 05:39 PM
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whats the comp ratio on the truck engine? that would be a better choice over rebuilding a 305 or buying the junk caprice engine.. vortecs are pretty decent factory heads, with a different cam, screw in studs, some new valve springs, and the tpi base that could be a decent engine. Personally I'd look into a carb, HSR, or modified LT1 intakeif proformance is what your shootin for.. is that a roller cam engine or flat tappet?

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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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uhhh, dunno about compression ratio, it is roller.

I Prolly will convert to LT1, thats actually a pretty sweet idea since i wont have to pay for the Vortec TPi baseplate. The thing is does the throttle doby of the LT1 sit at the same place as the TPI, if not what am i gonna do with that supercharger? It wont fit if it isn't in the same place.





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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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not sure, try posting it on the power adder board im sure someone has done it. I'd defently try to find out what the comp ratio is so you can figure out how much boost it can reasonably handle while staying togather.
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 08:11 PM
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lots of research came up witha 9.4:1 compression ratio. Is that high, low?


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