This is for the Camaro below. Here's the setup:

ENGINE

- 89' L98 vette 350 block
- 9.5:1 compression
- 650DP holley carb
- 0-7200 holley street dominator dual plane intake
- cast center bolt heads
- Comp Cams extreme energy 268 cam.
- 1 5/8" headers
- no cat
- 2 1/2" Flowmaster catback with crossflow 3 chamber muffler.

DRIVE TRAIN

- T5 trans w/3.35 1st gear
- center force clutch
- B&M shifter
- 3.73 posi rear
- all chassis upgrades except torque arm
- all poly bushings
- weighs 3450 with driver

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1986 CAMARO Z28 ->
151,000 original miles, 43,000 on 89' vette 350 block, Holley 650 DP, Weiand intake, 1.6 rockers, 1 5/8" headers, no cat, 2 1/2" Flowmaster catback, Mallory coil, March pulleys, B&M Ripper shifter, T5 with 3.35 1st gear and 0 miles, 90% Centerforce clutch, 3.73 posi, Eibach 1" drop springs, Spohn LCA's, Spohn adjustable panhard rod, Subframe connectors, all bushings are urethane, 2 12" Sound Streams, 2 Infinity 6X9's, 2 Pioneer 6X9's, 800 watt Lanzar Vibe amp. ET 13.22@ 106.4MPH 3300lbs less driver and speakers Next mods-> Extreme Energy 268 cam, Holley street dom intake.

1987 TRANS AM ->
73,000 miles, 305TPI, auto, gutted air box.

 

I see that nobody feels like getting yelled at for saying "probably not".

From what you are telling us, it doesn't look like you will be in the 12's.

What kind of work has been done to those heads?? What casting are they(stock)?

From what you say, your suspension/drivetrain seems fine and capable of supporting twelves though. as long as you can work that 5-speed efficiently that is.

Any mods to your ignition besides the coil?

Like i said in the other post, you truely need to get some track time in to see how you do. Street racing is very deceiving as far as times are concerned.

Anybody else have any ideas or suggestions please?

Keep us posted,

Steve

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86 Trans Am WS6 Black with tinted windows, shaved door handles
ZZ4, Mini-ram, true duals
***Too many other mods to mention***

"In the future, cities will become deserts,
roads will become battlefields, and the hope of mankind
will appear as a stranger" The Road Warrior

 

What cam were you running before?

Im not real familiar with the intake, but with a cam change (if its the right one) and assumably a better intake, you should be. I see you were only .2 off before, so if there is an improvement from the changes it shouldnt be a problem.

 

sorry that setup will put you into the 15's if there in a vett in a heavy camero 16's. my buddy has an late 80's vett that ran 15 flat at the track with stock tires. to turn 12's you need to be cranking 6g real quick in at least the first two gears.
"thats with the tires stuck to the track"
Nos even though i hate it "fake hp" will probably get ya in the 12's or 11's if you can hook up. word of warning sounds like you got a nice stereo setup make sure to disconect it before you drag components like to blow up at high rpm especialy amps if you have the main amp lead comming off the bat.
"over chraging" "from experiance"

 

sounds like a high 13 setup to me
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when the green flag drops the bull$hit stops

Curent: 350,performer RPM intake ,650dp, 700r4, headers, 3inch exhast
Spring 01: 406, Comp 282 solid cam, 2400 stall converter, every thing else the same.

R.I.P #3

 

thanks for the reply guys, to those that at least read it. Guys I'm already running 13.2's. I don't know why this car is so fast but it is, I think it might be the relatively light weight (for a camaro), manual trans, traction, and gearing.

Mad Max - I was running the stock 89'vette roller cam and 1.6 rockers. Heads are stock. Ignition is the coil and 8mm wires.

To give you an idea, I can destroy LT1 camaros, beat new camaros/T/A's, and tie new vettes.

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1986 CAMARO Z28 ->
151,000 original miles, 43,000 on 89' vette 350 block, Holley 650 DP, Weiand intake, 1.6 rockers, 1 5/8" headers, no cat, 2 1/2" Flowmaster catback, Mallory coil, March pulleys, B&M Ripper shifter, T5 with 3.35 1st gear and 0 miles, 90% Centerforce clutch, 3.73 posi, Eibach 1" drop springs, Spohn LCA's, Spohn adjustable panhard rod, Subframe connectors, all bushings are urethane, 2 12" Sound Streams, 2 Infinity 6X9's, 2 Pioneer 6X9's, 800 watt Lanzar Vibe amp. ET 13.22@ 106.4MPH 3300lbs less driver and speakers Next mods-> Extreme Energy 268 cam, Holley street dom intake.

1987 TRANS AM ->
73,000 miles, 305TPI, auto, gutted air box.

 

So all you changed from the 13.2 run was the cam, from a stock Vette cam (around a 207/213 @.050 low/mid .400s lift wasn't it?) to the 268. Same intake right? Sounds to me like 12s are possible, that cam should outperform the stock one by several tenths I'd wager... Although if you didn't already have timeslips of low 13s previously I would have thought you'd be around a 13.2 now, w/ a mid 13 before, guess you have a well set up car w/ all those chassis mods.

Just for reference, CHP got around 330hp or so from a very similar engine w/ the stock Al L98 heads and that cam. Only significant difference from your setup was a Perf RPM intake instead of your Weiand I believe, you'll have to ask around for the exact numbers and details.

What the hell is the dude saying 16s smoking??? The stock 89 Vette or Fbody L98 for that matter would blow that away... {edit}- ahh, seeing your location I'm betting you have run and witnessed runs at the high-as-hell altitude tracks out there near Denver. That explains some of it if so, although this car would still not run 16s.

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Ray87Z
-Vortec headed 350.
86 IROC w/ a cammed 305 TPI.
Formerly Ray86IROC.
www.inter-scape.com/Ray


[This message has been edited by Ray87Z (edited March 16, 2001).]

 

If you are running 16s... what size shot will put you into the 11s?

If you were running 13.2s before, I would say you are dipping into the high 12s by now. Some port work on those heads and it would definately help your times...



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1984 z28 w/ a 357 cu in. monster engine which is looking like the posterchild for Edelbrock with the exception of the Holley 750vac... all the suspension stuff... 9-bolt posi disk is in...

-=ICON Motorsports=-

 

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We need Perry Mason

 

those are damn good times for your combo right now, I think the new cam should help you out quite a bit, I think I need to cut some weight....looks like it worked for you! 12s are in your future I would say.

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91 RS W/carbed 350, Vortec heads, performer rpm, Comp cams Xtreme energy 224/230 duration and .477/.480 lift. BFG Drag radials. 3.42 posi,Corvette servoed 700r4, 3000 stallconverter. Edelbrock TES, 3inch cat, flowmaster with single 2.5 inch exit.
Best time yet to come
12's?? :crossthumbs:

This is a Pic of my car in race trim www.tbns.net/billyjay/camero.jpg

Yes I know how to spell camaro- so dont ask. I didnt make the link