What's the vehicle difference if one runs 13.00@100mph and 14@100mph in the 1/4 mile?
What's the vehicle difference if one runs 13.00@100mph and 14@100mph in the 1/4 mile?
subject says it all. I'm having trouble remembering the logic. Is it that the 13 second car is lighter and needed less horsepower to go that fast because hp is a reflection of the trap speed?
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The car that gets 13@100 has VERY good traction compared to the other car. The trap speed is not necessarily a HP related figure. Your trap speed can be 100 mph in a 40 HP scooter that weighs 100 pounds. But if both cars weigh about the same, the car with the lower ET gets traction while the other doesnt.
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Trap speed corresponds closely to horsepower. ET is a combination of traction AND HP. 2 cars of equal weight with the same trap speed, assuming proper and similar gearing, probably have about the same horsepower.
The car that went 13.00 probably hooked, where the car that went 14.00 sat and spun. Once it finally hooked, it ran the same as the lower ET car.
A good indicator of this in real life is 60' times.
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The car that went 13.00 probably hooked, where the car that went 14.00 sat and spun. Once it finally hooked, it ran the same as the lower ET car.
A good indicator of this in real life is 60' times.
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You can also look at it the other way around and I'll use myself as an example.
Two 12.0 second cars. One runs 108 MPH, the other (me) runs 117 MPH. Identical ET's but different trap speeds.
Providing the cars weigh about the same, I have way more HP to generate that 117 mph but why is my ET slower than what it should have been? For me it was gearing. The other car had deeper gears like 4.10 and was able to pull off the line much quicker. I only had 3.27 gears so I was slower off the line and played catchup for the rest of the track. Becasue of those gears I was starting to get into my powerband at the 1000 foot mark while they were almost topped out. I'd blow by them at the finish line with the same ET but the MPH was much greater. What I needed was about 3.90 gears.
Now back to your question again. MPH is based on HP but also depends on weight as mentioned above. My truck weighs 4600 pounds and with NOS I can usually always get 100-102 MPH but my ET varies from as low as 13.18 to as high as 14.0 depending on how well it hooks up. The MPH is always there because it has the HP but the ET will vary on traction.
That 14 second 100 mph car either has very poor traction or too tall of a gear and runs out of track before running out of rpm.
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Best ET on a time slip: 11.857 altitude corrected to 11.163
Best MPH on a time slip: 117.87 altitude corrected to 126.10
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Best 60 foot: 1.662
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Two 12.0 second cars. One runs 108 MPH, the other (me) runs 117 MPH. Identical ET's but different trap speeds.
Providing the cars weigh about the same, I have way more HP to generate that 117 mph but why is my ET slower than what it should have been? For me it was gearing. The other car had deeper gears like 4.10 and was able to pull off the line much quicker. I only had 3.27 gears so I was slower off the line and played catchup for the rest of the track. Becasue of those gears I was starting to get into my powerband at the 1000 foot mark while they were almost topped out. I'd blow by them at the finish line with the same ET but the MPH was much greater. What I needed was about 3.90 gears.
Now back to your question again. MPH is based on HP but also depends on weight as mentioned above. My truck weighs 4600 pounds and with NOS I can usually always get 100-102 MPH but my ET varies from as low as 13.18 to as high as 14.0 depending on how well it hooks up. The MPH is always there because it has the HP but the ET will vary on traction.
That 14 second 100 mph car either has very poor traction or too tall of a gear and runs out of track before running out of rpm.
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Follow my racing progress on Stephen's racing page
and check out the race car
87 IROC-Z Pro ET Bracket Race Car
383 stroker (carbed) with double hump cast iron heads and pump gas
461 Big Block installed and ready for the 2001 racing season
Best results before the 383 blew up
Best ET on a time slip: 11.857 altitude corrected to 11.163
Best MPH on a time slip: 117.87 altitude corrected to 126.10
Altitude corrected rear wheel HP based on power to weight ratio: 476.5
Best 60 foot: 1.662
Racing at 3500 feet elevation but most race days it's over 5000 feet density altitude!
Member of the Calgary Drag Racing Association
87 IROC bracket car, 91 454SS daily driver, 95 Homebuilt Harley
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