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Old Mar 24, 2001 | 01:07 PM
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Check out this 406 Crate Engine !!

Let me know what you guys think of this motor with the two options installed. I think it could be close to 500 Hp, what do you guys think??
http://www.allchevyengines.com/406-435.htm

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Old Mar 24, 2001 | 02:09 PM
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The short block looks pretty much OK; I assume those heads are 74 or 76cc to give that CR... I'd sure put some other cam in it though. Maybe a Comp XE274H and 1.6 roller rockers. The valve springs might need some attention from doing that. I believe I'd also lose the HV oil pump, put a M55A or a M55 with the Mr G #26 spring in it.

The options are very cool.

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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 02:43 AM
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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 11:44 AM
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406 crate engine a assemlby you may buy, and the comment was " change the cam, the springs
and etc." A good buy, and comments be D---
go for it. Remember, its a brand new engine
and not a work in progress.
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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 03:40 PM
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Just because it's a "crate engine" doesn't necessarily mean it only comes like the web page says. This isn't GM where they build millions of identical ones on an assembly line, it's more like Burger King, so when you order it, have them build it your way instead of the generic way. I'm not suggesting you tear it down and change it yourself, voiding the warranty, since about the only advantage there is to buying a "crate engine" is the warranty.

It's a decent enough basic combo as it is, but with some very minor, near-zero-cost changes, it can be made much better. For what the changes I suggested will cost, they're alot more bang for the buck than the head & roller upgrades, since they'll give you easily 40 more HP for what should be less than $250 additional.

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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 04:09 PM
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Good point, but I wouldnt even consider the motor without the two options included. That would put me about right where I want to be price wise anyway. I think that changing the cam would be a good idea also. Seems a little small for a 406. Eventually i want to run a miniram of this thing too, I think it should scream. My only concern would be the quality of the work done at that place. I would be comfortable with Sallee, or Scoggin, but I havent heard anything about this place yet. Anyone have any expierience with this place?

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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 05:46 PM
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i highly doubt that thing would be 500 hp in that form. with options listed, easy. 750 bucks for a roller, holy crap. i would imagine that comes with the springs, lifters, cam, and pushrods. seems like a lot of cash for a roller, but all of the components separate would probably be the same price. that is why i went with the ancient tech flat tappet in mine, $150, hehe.

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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 07:01 PM
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I have a 350 from ALL CHEVY ENGINES, and have no problem with their workmanship or parts used. One year warranty with unlimited mileage. Give them a call.
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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 08:29 PM
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Any of you notice the small *** valves? 2.02/1.60, I can put than a 4.000 bore much less a 4.125 bore.

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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 09:21 AM
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well that's not bad but i would think you could do better. Get them to give you a quote on just a shortblock with no cam (anything that is 500 and 292 is old and probably sucks). Get a hydroller (500 cam/lifters is about right) and another 200 for pushrods and rockers. You can get the new pro1 dart heads for about 575 each complete and they do move more air than the Sportsman IIs. It will be very close to 500hp with something like that. I would be prepared to spend 4500 without carb and ignition

I have right about 1800 in my 400 shortblock (not counting cam) PS, that is with new 4130 I beam capscrew rods and SRP pistons.

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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 09:49 AM
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In conculsion to this post on a 406 crate engines,I have two suggestions.
1) Performance engines 101
2) A Summit catolog
Now go bulid it, and it shall run fast.
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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 09:58 AM
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has anyone seen the add in car craft for a blown 540? makes like 900hp.....price blows it out of the water though...$9,999 geesh

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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 01:50 PM
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Just bought the 350ci/360hp model from All
Chevy Engines. In the process of installing
now(replacing the L69). Anyone else have any
input on this engine builder or their products ?

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Old Mar 28, 2001 | 11:04 AM
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Old Mar 28, 2001 | 02:23 PM
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Cast crank seems a little weak for my tastes. I would have gone to a forged crank and a better set of rods. At least Eagle I-beams. But for a street engine and no N2O, it will work.
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