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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 05:10 PM
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getting code 32 and 54 hard cold start

code 32 and 54 Its hard to start the car when cold
takes two cranks and she is getting no gas millage really at all. She surges at idle, the car is a 91 firebird 5 speed 305 TBI.

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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 05:28 PM
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You have e-mail!!!!!!!!
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 05:40 PM
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oh and I forgot she has less power at WOT than at part thorttle.
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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code 32 is EGR System. I have gotten that code once and will be blocking off the EGR instead of replacing it.
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 05:45 PM
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code 32 is EGR System. I have gotten that code once and will be blocking off the EGR instead of replacing it.
it also says it could be a Fault in electronic vacuum regulator valve, and im getting no gas millage hard cold start and no power after part thorttle. so any ideas?
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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Do you mean the EGR solenoid?
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by Trickster
Do you mean the EGR solenoid?
No I mean code 32 is defined as
32. Fault in barometric pressure sensor circuit OR
Fault in exhaust gas recirculation valve diagnostic switch OR
Fault in electronic vacuum regulator valve
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 06:42 PM
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Are you by chance reading that from a Chiltons or Haynes manual? You sure didn't get it from the information I e-mailed you.
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 06:47 PM
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I read it on the site here on the tech articles.
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 06:57 PM
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Okay, What I sent you in the e-mail is out of the GM service manual for your car. Have you received it yet?
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 10:01 PM
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Trickster...can you email me the info that you sent 92Transam? I had code 32 pop up once but hasn't been back since and that was on sunday. I would like all the info on it I can get. Thanks
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 11:20 PM
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Have you reset the timing lately? I had the same problem when I bought my car, turns out the timing had been set without disconnecting the timing control link on the firewall. It was hard to start, surged, and milage sucked! Even got the same codes.
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 11:24 PM
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Have you reset the timing lately? I had the same problem when I bought my car, turns out the timing had been set without disconnecting the timing control link on the firewall. It was hard to start, surged, and milage sucked! Even got the same codes.
Hummm could be the distributor was a little loose when I put in the new rotor and cap.
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 11:58 PM
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Hey Trickster...thanks for the info from the service manual on this code. It is greatly appreciated. :hail:
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 01:54 AM
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Code 32: EGR. The egr is probably jsut plugged with carbon. It may also be stuck open, which would cause a crappy idle with low vacuum and smoke with a speed density system.

Code 54: Low voltage at fuel pump relay. Definatly worth checking out the relay if your having a hard time starting it. No fuel=motor don't do squat.
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 09:05 AM
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Code 54; Check fuel pressure! If the pump primes when you turn the key on (listen for pump noise) before you crank, relay is good.
If it doesn't, you will have to crank several times before the oil pressure switch (not sending unit, but switch next to oil filter) see's oil pressure and sends a sig to turn on pump.

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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 10:35 AM
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I think my car may need a fuel pump relay or pump. My car tries to turn off when at idle, and sometimes runs crappy when I'm driving. By crappy I mean, I mash the pedal and nothing really happens. I get that code 32 sometimes but I always goes away.
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 04:05 PM
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iroc-ice, Could be! If you have to start it several times before it will stay running and it rev's up slow and seems to go nowhere, you probably have a pressure problem, especialy with TBI. It should be between 9-13lbs. Try to find someone with a pressure gauge might save some money. If you can't Auto Zone sell's one for about 49 bucks. That's a little more than the fuel pump itself.
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 05:17 PM
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I checked it awhile ago and it was fine. I checked it again about 4 days later and it was low, and wouldn't stay started. The reading was around 6-7 and would go any higher. Thats was before it cut off.
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 09:10 PM
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Too low! Mine was giving me hell at 7lbs. You need a new pump!
A new one will put out 13lbs and you'll think you got a new motor!! Bad news is the new pump only costs less than 50 bucks
(Weber brand from Napa) if you do it your self (it's a beotch). Dropping the tank and all, but with good tools and a lot of patience you can save 250 to 300 bucks on labor and parts mark-up. If you've got the money, get a shop to do it! and take the day off!

If you don't, get a buddy to help ya! The haynes manual #79019 that Auto Zone sells for about 15 bucks has all the inst. in it to do the job. It's for 1982-1992 Firebird but will also work on the camaro if you can't find the camaro book.
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 10:11 PM
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Originally posted by sqzbox
Bad news is the new pump only costs less than 50 bucks
(Weber brand from Napa) if you do it your self (it's a beotch). Dropping the tank and all, but with good tools and a lot of patience you can save 250 to 300 bucks on labor and parts mark-up.
Make sure you do not have a fuel tank of gas when you do it or else you will pay with pain and frustration. the frustration may be there anyways though
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 04:55 AM
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Yeah, what he said! (somebody SLAP ME)! Just for fun let's have a do's and don't list!
Do's;
1. Keep plenty of rag's on hand.
2. Have band aid's ready.
3. Work in a well ventilated area.
4. Dissconnect the battery BEFORE you start
5. Have someone ready to go to the part's store if you need more stuff.
6. Use plenty of jack stands.
Don'ts;
1. Keep women away during the job! (Are you done yet?).
2. Keep children away " " " (Might hear wrong words).
3. Don't smoke (Unless your already ugly).
4. Don't wear anything you want to wear again.
If anyone can add to the list feel free to do so!

SQZBOX
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 09:46 AM
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I got one for the do's list.

Get a friend that has tools.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by sqzbox
Too low! Mine was giving me hell at 7lbs. You need a new pump!
A new one will put out 13lbs and you'll think you got a new motor!! Bad news is the new pump only costs less than 50 bucks
(Weber brand from Napa) if you do it your self (it's a beotch). Dropping the tank and all, but with good tools and a lot of patience you can save 250 to 300 bucks on labor and parts mark-up. If you've got the money, get a shop to do it! and take the day off!


When I told the mechanics at the shop I work at that I needed a new fuel pump, they looked at with money in their eyes.
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 12:57 AM
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just replaced the water pump in my car took it for a test drive ses light came on both these codes came up im starting to hate my third gen
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 04:24 AM
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That's why my car has been named "KOTEX" ! It seems like once a month it turns into a "BEOTCH" ! (It's also painted white!) But the other 25 day's I love it!
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 09:10 AM
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LOL
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