Questions on adapting a junkyard Ford 9" to fit>>>
Questions on adapting a junkyard Ford 9" to fit>>>
I was at the yard looking for other stuff today..and ran across a 9" in an old truck that measured an ideal length to be adapted into a thirdgen. I plan on going back to buy it probably this weekend. I have some questions.
I assume the bolt circle won't fit my wheels. Anyone know for sure? does anyone make replacment axles with the proper pattern?
What does it take to adapt the driveshaft?
Who makes an adapter to fit the torque arm, and how much is it? would I be better off just fabbing some ladder bars?
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I assume the bolt circle won't fit my wheels. Anyone know for sure? does anyone make replacment axles with the proper pattern?
What does it take to adapt the driveshaft?
Who makes an adapter to fit the torque arm, and how much is it? would I be better off just fabbing some ladder bars?
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Any after market company can provide axles (Moser Strange Currie etc). Or you could use unilug rims, but those kinda suck. Use conversion u-joints to mate the joint to the diff. As for the torque arm mount, I'd like an answer to that too. I've been told SOMEONE makes a bracket to mount it to the diff......but nobody seems to remember the company. I'm kinda leaning towards ladder bars myself.
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I believe the older truck 9inch rears had 26 spline axles, which made for a weaker link.
Either that, or something about the truck rears are different (other than the bolt pattern) that makes them less desirable.
Either that, or something about the truck rears are different (other than the bolt pattern) that makes them less desirable.
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Transmission: Powerglide
Axle/Gears: Ford 9"/31 spline spool/4.86
I have one just like that. You'll need the axles just to get the measurements for aftermarket ones. When you order new axles, you can get them in any bolt pattern. Your chev wheels won't fit on any ford axle unless the rims are dual bolt pattern. If the bolt pattern is very large then it's the ford 5 on 5 1/2".
Depending on the yoke used on the 9" your driveshaft may need to be lengthened or shortened. You'll also need an adaptor u-joint and that also depends on the ford yoke. They're not all the same. If the driveshaft length needs to be changed, it's just as easy to put a ford yoke on the end of it and run a standard ford u-joint.
Moser used to sell the torque arm adaptor seperatly but to my knowledge they don't any more. It's mounted to brackets that are welded to the housing. My guess is that they can't guarentee their product when someone else has to weld on the mounting points for the mounting bracket.
Ladder bars is easy however I mocked up a set on my car. The front crossmember will fit perfectly between my sub frame connectors but the rear floor will have to be cut and modified to clear the ladder bars since the diff sits up so high in the body (or the floor is very low depending on how you look at it)
If you're willing to do some custon fabrication work then it can be cheaper to use a junkyard diff but when you look at a Moser bolt-in assembly available from Steve Spohn it can save you a lot of time and headaches buying a new assembly. You don't need to buy the center section. Depending on the gear ratio you want, you can find any center section in the junk yard that will work. Then order the Moser housing (with axles) with the correct spline count for the center section.
I currently have a center section sitting here waiting for my 10 bolt to blow up. 4.56 gears, 31 spline spool. All I need is the diff housing and axles and it's ready to go in. Going to 4.56 gears will mean I need to go to 29 or 30" tall tires though.
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Depending on the yoke used on the 9" your driveshaft may need to be lengthened or shortened. You'll also need an adaptor u-joint and that also depends on the ford yoke. They're not all the same. If the driveshaft length needs to be changed, it's just as easy to put a ford yoke on the end of it and run a standard ford u-joint.
Moser used to sell the torque arm adaptor seperatly but to my knowledge they don't any more. It's mounted to brackets that are welded to the housing. My guess is that they can't guarentee their product when someone else has to weld on the mounting points for the mounting bracket.
Ladder bars is easy however I mocked up a set on my car. The front crossmember will fit perfectly between my sub frame connectors but the rear floor will have to be cut and modified to clear the ladder bars since the diff sits up so high in the body (or the floor is very low depending on how you look at it)
If you're willing to do some custon fabrication work then it can be cheaper to use a junkyard diff but when you look at a Moser bolt-in assembly available from Steve Spohn it can save you a lot of time and headaches buying a new assembly. You don't need to buy the center section. Depending on the gear ratio you want, you can find any center section in the junk yard that will work. Then order the Moser housing (with axles) with the correct spline count for the center section.
I currently have a center section sitting here waiting for my 10 bolt to blow up. 4.56 gears, 31 spline spool. All I need is the diff housing and axles and it's ready to go in. Going to 4.56 gears will mean I need to go to 29 or 30" tall tires though.
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and check out the race car
87 IROC-Z SuperPro ET Bracket Race Car
461 naturally aspirated Big Block
Best ET on a time slip: 11.242 altitude corrected to 10.69
Best MPH on a time slip: 121.52 altitude corrected to 127.76
Altitude corrected rear wheel HP based on power to weight ratio: 504.5
Best 60 foot: 1.546
Racing at 3500 feet elevation but most race days it's over 5000 feet density altitude!
Member of the Calgary Drag Racing Association
87 IROC bracket car, 91 454SS daily driver, 95 Homebuilt Harley
I have a 9" set up for a camaro that i want to get rid of. it has 4.11:1 gears, moser axles, moser mini spool, aerospace disc brakes, south side lift bars, and weld draglites. asking price $2000. email me at stroked342@aol.com
thanks
chris
thanks
chris
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Originally posted by SatisTraction
I have a 9" set up for a camaro that i want to get rid of. it has 4.11:1 gears, moser axles, moser mini spool, aerospace disc brakes, south side lift bars, and weld draglites. asking price $2000. email me at stroked342@aol.com
thanks
chris
I have a 9" set up for a camaro that i want to get rid of. it has 4.11:1 gears, moser axles, moser mini spool, aerospace disc brakes, south side lift bars, and weld draglites. asking price $2000. email me at stroked342@aol.com
thanks
chris
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From: 51°N 114°W, 3500'
Car: 87 IROC L98
Engine: 588 Alcohol BBC
Transmission: Powerglide
Axle/Gears: Ford 9"/31 spline spool/4.86
SatisTraction added his classified to many of the older 9" topics in many of the boards bringing them back up.
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