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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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From: Warminster, PA
Car: 1979 Firebird Esprit Redbird, 1987 Trans Am WS6
Engine: 301ci, 305ci
Transmission: T/H350, 700R4
Odd couple of days...

2 nights ago i went to leave work and my car wouldnt start. I could only keep it running my keeping my foot on the throttle(never had trouble doing that before ). When i took my foot off the gas it would bog and shut off. The next day i changed my cap, rotor, module. Today on my lunch break i change my coil. Still nothing. Had the following engine codes:

33-Mass Air Flow sensor-signal voltage or frequency is high during engine idle. OR MAP (Dont got MAP).

36-Mass Air Flow sensor-Burn-off circut problem OR Transmission shift problem (Electronic Controlled Transmission Only OR DIS (Dont got DIS) OR Ignition system fault-loss of high resolution pulse signal.

43-Electronic spark timing (EST) circut - low voltage detected OR Electronic spark control (ESC) circut problems. ----- What could this be?

54-Low fuel pump voltage OR Fuel pump relay OR EGR Solenoid No. 2 failure OR Quad Driver module (QDM) output failure OR Mixture Control (M/C) solenoid - circut voltage too high. ----- What could this be?
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Got it into the shop at work tonight. Wnated to check what the fuel pressure was cause it seemed to be starving for fuel. The installer put the gauge on and i started the car... Fuel blew out of the bottom of the gauge(he left it opened). Cleaned everything up. Tried again 1 hour later with it closed. Still shot fuel out. Held a rag over it and started it and it was good. Revved it to about 4 grand. Fuel pressure was at 40psi. Let my foot off the gas and turned the key off at the same time. Went to restart it and forgot i didnt put it in neutral. Took my foot off the gas and it stayed running... Shut it off and turned it back on and it stayed running.... ok... now my car runs... The only thing we can think of is there was something in the fuel rail that was clogging it, and when i revved it, it blew it out. What do you guys think?
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 11:35 PM
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dude... that's messed up just all of a sudden all of those trouble codes popped up huh? Well obviously check those offending parts to verify faulty operation, but if they seem ok, then I'd say the ecm is tripping. I had problems almost the same as yours when I moved my battery to the spare tire well. it'd run fine for a few days, then all of a sudden a bunch of error codes appeared (i think improper mem-cal was first).
Turns out that the problem was an insufficient ground. I had grounded the negative terminal to the body assuming that it would be good enough.... but obviously the body has too much resistance in it. I ended up having to run another ground cable from the negative terminal on the battery, to the engine block and replace the ecm.
PM if you end up needed another ecm, if u're using the 1227165.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 07:19 AM
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Car: 1987 IROCZ
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: 700r4
Reset the ECM by disconnecting the battery ground, some of those codes could have been around for awhile. Reset ECM so you can get a fresh look at things. I would check the basics, IAC, TPS, idle setting, base timing, and fuel pressure. After that is checked, set and verified, and you still have trouble, you should be in a better position to start isolating and troubleshooting.
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