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Old May 30, 2001 | 11:10 PM
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Track results with exhaust upgrade....

First time is was at the track i ran a best of 16.2, which is just about right on the 86 ta right out of the factory, whichi i think it was tested at 16.3.

Now i put on slp headers to catco cat and american thunder catback and ran a best of 15.3, so i gained 9 tenths of a second, the 60 foot times stayed about the same. Oh yea, i also gained 7mph. I have lcas sitting in my gargage right now i need to put on and maybe get sub 2 60 foot times.

I did have more tire spin off the line when launching at 1500rpm so i dropped it down to about 1200rpm and that helped but i still couldn't get them lower than my first outting.

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Old May 30, 2001 | 11:21 PM
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Old May 31, 2001 | 01:17 AM
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Old May 31, 2001 | 12:38 PM
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Post this message on the TBI board, with attn to "ONEFINE8T9". He, for some unknown reason, thinks that exhaust won't help a stock motor. (?!)

Anyway, good mod, and great results!
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Old May 31, 2001 | 01:09 PM
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Great improvement..... Still shouldn't the car be sub 15's with those mods? How many miles?
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Old May 31, 2001 | 01:13 PM
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i put a full exhaust on and lost 2 tenths.
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Old May 31, 2001 | 06:05 PM
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Keep in mind this is the peanut cam, the worst cam GM has ever put in a car....

I have full exhaust
ported plenum
home made air-intake with k&n
airfoil
msd cap/coil/rotor/wires ac rapidfire plugs
ss subframe connectors
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afpr

and the car weighs with me in it 3800 pounds, no i am not fat, i weigh 150

any body else think this thing should be faster? I have never messed with the timing, tps, egr, or any other sensors or relays.

Is bumping the timing up a couple degrees worth while procedure or a waste of time?

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Old May 31, 2001 | 06:42 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 86Trans Am:
Keep in mind this is the peanut cam, the worst cam GM has ever put in a car....

I have full exhaust
ported plenum
home made air-intake with k&n
airfoil
msd cap/coil/rotor/wires ac rapidfire plugs
ss subframe connectors
emissions removed
afpr

and the car weighs with me in it 3800 pounds, no i am not fat, i weigh 150

any body else think this thing should be faster? I have never messed with the timing, tps, egr, or any other sensors or relays.

Is bumping the timing up a couple degrees worth while procedure or a waste of time?

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Your right about the cam. I swaped a LT1 cam into my 87 what a diff. I was going to do headers next but I bought the 350 to build insteed. Here are all my times.


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Old Jun 1, 2001 | 02:19 PM
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You're running right where you should. You didn't mention your rear end ratio but if it's a 2.73 you're actually doing pretty good. Exhaust is always the first place to go for power on a TPI F-Body after you use all the free mods up. The factory manfilds and y-pipe are a joke. And after a decade or so of hard use your cat could have been a little "congested"...

Yes, bumping your timing up a few degrees will help quite a bit if running a stock chip. Bump it from 6* (stock) to 10* and you'll pick up a solid tenth and 1 MPH.


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Old Jun 1, 2001 | 05:38 PM
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My 91z 305 5-speed ran a 14.874 @94.55mph w/only a slp catback. Stock 3.42s and all. Derrick
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Old Jun 1, 2001 | 05:39 PM
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my car ran a 14.874 @94.55mph w/only a slp cat-back. Stock 3.42s and all. And that was w/a 2.3 60'. Derrick
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Old Jun 1, 2001 | 08:35 PM
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I replaced the stock LG4 exhaust w/ 1-5/8 Summit headers, and custom 3" exhaust w/ a Magnum race muffler (its way to loud) but improved by .5 !!! I have timeslips and witnesses!

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Old Jun 1, 2001 | 08:48 PM
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86 Trans Am, I have a dealer poster from 86 that has a red Trans Am with you wheels on it. I would have sent you an email, but its not listed on your profile. If you are interested in it, send me an email at Teletubbie98_99@yahoo.com


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Old Jun 1, 2001 | 11:50 PM
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You know, anymore, i'm not even sure what gears i have. My dad, who ordered the car in 1985 seems to think it has 3.23's, but after reading some of the stuff on the board i'm begining to wonder if they aren't 2.73's. I have looked for the stamp on the axle tube but couldnt find it. All i know is that at about 70mph, i'm at about 1800-2000rpm, closer to 1800.

Oh well, installed my poly/rod ended lca's today, of course it rained.....

plus my transmission decided it didnt want to go into 4th again for awhile...

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Old Jun 2, 2001 | 08:21 AM
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with that kind of rpm they definitly must be 2.73 gears. sounds like a pretty good gain for that mod.

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Old Jun 2, 2001 | 12:51 PM
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1800 RPM at 70?!?!
When I'm at 70 I'm well over 2500!
Count your blessings, with gas at $2.15 a gallon here in NY.

Gotta love 3.70's!

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Old Jun 2, 2001 | 05:44 PM
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i have to confirm that exhaust work does help but i had to put in a afpr to get full effects. these are the times on my car for reference. 87gta L98 ran 15.21 bone stock.. after complete exhauste 1 3/4 headers high flow cat and flowmaster it ran actually slower at 15.26. checked car over and found i was lean. put in afpr and ported plenhiem and now just ran 14.81.. i think it should be a little lower but i have major wheel spin now off the line. running basic street tires which do not stick worth a damn. after new skins it should be interesting to see if i can lower it some more.
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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 12:05 AM
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Throw a quarter in the top of your FPR if you don't already have an AFPR. Cheap way to shim the FPR and up pressure a couple lbs...

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