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Did anyone see HorsePower TV this weekend? They were working on a CRX. What the he!! is that crap. It had nothing to do with horsepower, they put on a body kit, wheels and springs. What a waste of airtime, I always look forward to watching that show and they show that dumb stuff.
I do have one technical question though. They had a 9 sec. Honda on there I believe CRX that had wheelie bars on it. Why does it have wheelie bars if it is front wheel drive. The car shouldn't do a wheels stand then should it.

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'86 IROC
T-TOPS, TINTED WINDOWS, BRAKE LIGHT BLACKOUTS
GM GOODWRENCH 350
EDELBROCK TES HEADERS
FLOWMASTER, NO CAT
EDELBROCK 600CFM CARB.
KN AIRFILTER
ACCEL HEI DISTRIBUTOR
160* Stat
2:73 GEARS
Rebuilt 700R4, with manual valve body
B&M Megashifter
Soon to be installed
3:73 Richmond Gears and 3" Hooker Aero Chamber
Corvette Servo & .500 boost valve
15.61@ 95.2mph G-Teched, 1-2 shift slippage
"There is nothing more addicting than speed"

 

They prelaod the wheelie bar to effectively "add" more weight to the front tires. When ready to run, there is essentially NO weight on the rear tires; the rear end of the car is being supported almost entirely by the "wheelie" bar. That is one of the measures you must go through if you have a front driver Jap-wagon!

 

Couldn't the same be true for American cars, or would that mess up the aerodynamics of the car besides it looking funny.

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'86 IROC
T-TOPS, TINTED WINDOWS, BRAKE LIGHT BLACKOUTS
GM GOODWRENCH 350
EDELBROCK TES HEADERS
FLOWMASTER, NO CAT
EDELBROCK 600CFM CARB.
KN AIRFILTER
ACCEL HEI DISTRIBUTOR
160* Stat
2:73 GEARS
Rebuilt 700R4, with manual valve body
B&M Megashifter
Soon to be installed
3:73 Richmond Gears and 3" Hooker Aero Chamber
Corvette Servo & .500 boost valve
15.61@ 95.2mph G-Teched, 1-2 shift slippage
"There is nothing more addicting than speed"

 

I saw that show, Man the hosts of the show actually acted like they enjoyed doing that to the CRX! I quickly changed the channel in disgust !

 

Well, shoot guys i put some feather lite bondo on my fender and gained 5 tenths, why wouldn't their body kit add power also?

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89 IROC-Z 350 TPI

-Flowmaster Catback
-Performance Resource Chip
-700R4 (Rebuilt) Too much done to actually list
-K&N Airfilters
-Ported Plenum
-2.77 Gears (not much to brag about but eh, its there)
-MSD 8.5 mm plug wires
-Gutted cat
-!AIR
-Gutted Air Boxes

 

The second I saw they were gonna be working on that jap crap Honda, I turned off the TV and went to work on installing my new intake! But I honestly doubt those guys enjoyed working on that car, I think they're both true Americans at heart!

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1987 Chevy Camaro IROC-Z
L98 TPI 350 (5.7L)
TH 700R-4 Transmission
Borg Warner 7.75" 9 Bolt Rear End with 2.77:1 Gears.

Current Mods: LT4 HOT Cam, Comp Cams 1.52:1 Roller Rocker Arms, LPE High Flow TPI Baseplate, Edelbrock TES 1 5/8" Headers, Catco 3" High-Flow Catalytic Converter, Hooker 3" Aerochamber Cat-Back System, Transgo Shift Kit, Performance Resource Chip, Accel Ignition, K&N Filters, JET TPI Air Foil, All Free Mods, Falken ZIEX Z-Rated Tires.

Best ET: 14.32 @ 97.7mph
(corrected for elevation)

 

Ya, he definatley didn't like doing that, I hated the show, maybe if they would of done something besides a body kit, say a vtec head swap, then it would of been pretty awsome, or anythign besides a body kit, especialy on that car. I mean when crank and chrome did the exhaust on the Integra GSR a few months back, at least it had a purpose. But hey, theres always next week.

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88' GTA 350 MODS---> air foil, K&N, Shift Kit, 180* therm, TB bypass

 

Did any of you actually bother watching the whole thing? If you would have you would have seen under the hood was definitely not stock. And I know a lot of members are anti-ricers but you have to admit, what they do works for them. I think the body kits and lowering and rims and tires make their cars look 100% better and more sportier.

 

You guys gotta realize TV is all about advertisement. If wings west or someone offers HPTV money to intsall one of their body kits, you bet they will take the money and run. Like it or not, ricers are popular now, so they advertise what sells. Heck I saw one episode where they put ground effects on a contour or something. Anyone see the episode with the 91 red Firebird convertible? All they freakin did was put ugly cragar SS wheels on it, along with nos and a single 8" sub.

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1983 Firebird
TH700R4 Auto
Small Block 400
LG4 ECM, Intake, Carb, Distributor, etc.
Soon to be non-computer.
Clarion Head Unit 45X4
2 Pioneer 400W 12" Subs
Third Gen Performance
"A four cylinder is half an engine."

 

That show was the most retarded thing I have ever seen them do. All of that **** was useless as he!!, only weighed that car down even more. If I ever see a CRX like that on the road, I'll be compelled to run it into the ditch and put it out of it's misery.

Has anyone else noticed that those old bastards are always saying stuff like, "let's put on this trick fascia," or "man that's trick." I can't stand that.

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I'd rather be historically accurate than politically correct!

 

Yea. I saw it. It's a rerun. Just wait guys. It gets better. Soon they show how to put a Eaton blower on a Honda. Talk about wasted time.

I guess we are starting to sound like old men when EFI came out. Things, and people change. But it doesn't mean that we have to.

THERE'S NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT!!!!!!!

 

heck, id love to see actual engine work on one of those cars, im not at all an import hatter, but i do think that last episode was pointless.

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88' GTA 350 MODS---> air foil, K&N, Shift Kit, 180* therm, TB bypass

 

I saw that episode, too. Changed after getting a good laugh from it. I am with breathment, though. I would like to see a REAL import buildup. I am talking a full race buildup: Billet Crank, rods, cams, and forged pistons. Aluminium heads. Twin turbo's and a crazy NOS system, and converted to real wheel drive (if it wasnt already). Now that would be a decent episode.

 

THERE IS A REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT AND THAT IS TECHNOLOGY!!!!!!!! And many of you have realized that and are puttin on twin turbos and superchargers and intercoolers to go with them. Looks like there is a replacement after all.



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85camaro305

mods:3in. exhaust pipe straight from the headers to a glasspack, edelbrock performer rpm intake manifold, edelbrock performer 600cfm elec. choke carb, dynomax headers, no ac and edelbrock signature chrome valve covers and a edelbrock pro flo air cleaner. oh yeah and lots of chrome stuff.

future mods:msd 6al, hei upgrade, and my wolverine cam to be installed, and march underdrive pulleys and a bumpin stereo.

"have u driven over a ford lately"

 

tech:
wheelie bars are a big help to the real import racers. If you've ever driven a FWD car, when you take off the rear of the car slams down, Just like the front of a RWD car lifts up. By putting wheeliebars on, the rear of the car can't slam down but the front does insted, thus giving them much needed traction.

not so tech:
Doing that on the show was a big waste. They should make their own show. The import cars have more mags then us almost now. They seem more in tune with whats going on. How many time have you had to read about a '63 Valiant with a Hemi. WHO THE F HAS A HEMI now a days???? But if you show a 240SX being turboed with a SILVA body kit, they are all over the place watiting to be modded for cheap!

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-Tas
'89 Formula WS-6

305, TBI, auto, 14x3 chrome flat based open element with K&N, Milodon 160* thermo, functional Formula hood, cross-flow Flowmaster, '99z28 rear pipes and tips....

To be installed eventually far far far into the future: Yours if the price is right and I don't have to ship :
Hooker 1-5/8" 50 state legal headers, Dynomax 3" I pipe (PN 44063 and 43248), Catco 3" cat, and injector spacer.

Super GRK_Taz World
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[This message has been edited by Tas (edited July 25, 2001).]

 

IMO the CRX is a perfect car for racing... I myself have a first gen CRX in the driveway next to the Firebird, it is a very quick car even stock as it is and it handles very well... (0-60 ~ 7 sec. on second gen.) I can completely see it's potential. BTW doing a show on body detailing and other external "performance parts" does seem like a waste of time, I would rather see the under the hood work.

Don't bash the rice cakes unless you can beat them all...

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1984 Firebird T/A - Daily driver
305 LG4, T5 - Hurst Short Shifter
Edelbrock 600 CFM Performer Carb
Open Element Air Filter
Gutted Cat... missing stuff I'll need next year
IROC 16x8 Wheels
Goodyear P215/60/R16 87S - S stands for suck
(but I'm a cheap *** and I don't go 112... don't think I do...)
Quote from my sister: "It sounds like a boat"

 

They only did it to make the show look more "appealing" to the rest of the world. Those cars dont have any guts (I drove a buddy's Civic, damn its a turd under 4000 RPM) and they dont deserve to be on a show called "Horsepower TV".

I forgive them. How about the rest of yall?

 

I'm sorry that you are sooo wrong, but you are!!!!! Uhhh think about it fer a second. A 502 BB with 8 psi. of boost will put out more power than a 1.6L with 8 psi. of boost. That's pretty hard to figure out, huh? That would be due to displacement. Displacement= more air. It takes a larger volume of air to reach 8psi on a 502 than it does a 1.6L, so the 502 gets more air. Plus more fuel. That would equal more power.

I'm not at all against technology, nor boost, but is the Corvette blown? 345bhp baby. They gotta use a turbo, supercharger, or whatever, just to get a 4 banger to reach a comparable power-to-weight ratio.

More power is great no matter how you get it, but it's much easier (and cheaper) to get power from a larger engine. SO, no matter how you try to argue about it you are wrong.
Sorry,

AJ

 

I'm glad someone brought this up cause I could not understand why a FWD car had a wheelie bar! Thank you.

 

Another reason for the wheelie bar is so that they dont flip....Ive seen cars (especially light imports) just lift off the ground and do a flip in the air....the wheelie bar would prevent this (kinda like a drive shaft loop prevents the driveshaft from getting stuck in the road if it falls and keeps it from flipping) One thing I found hilarious from the show was when they showed the fiberglass ground effects (before saying it would require a lot of work to do...and that the other material will keep from cracking) they said something along the lines of "this kit will keep you looking different than everyone else on the road" funny thing is....EVERY freakin ***** I see on the road has that exact kit...with the big screens in the front...kinda funny...but hey...my friend has a Focus...and hes always asking me questions about how to do this...and how to do that...and he asked me how to put a body kit on...and I told him to watch the show...atleast hes learning even though its on a crap focus.

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1992 Teal Camaro RS
T-Tops
305 TBI V8
Open air element
3" Flowmaster Exhaust System w/Quad Tips
Aiwa CD/Mp3 player
10 Disc CD Changer
Rockford Fosgate Speakers
SLP Headers Coming
Dynomax High Flow Cats Coming
More to come.

 

If they do it for advertisement, then they lost me. I didn't pay much attention after they started, except to think how odd the car looked on the dragstrip with wide tires in front.

Why not put an all wheel drive vehicle on the drag strip next?

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1987 Z28 Black & Silver 305 LG4/5-Speed . . .
NRA/AMA/FOP/IUPA/Blue Knights

 

Cylinder fill makes torque, and the cheapest most reliable way to fill the cylinder is just to make it bigger - i.e. cubes. You don't have to be able to beat every type of car to make fun of stupid looking cars. I would GREATLY like to see a genuine CRX or some other fwd Honda/Integra buildup, because you hear people say things like "so and so has a civic that runs 9's" or "a civic is an excellent racing platform" but when you see hp tv or someone else put on expensive parts the car barely hits the 16's. I just want to see exactly what it takes to hit single digits with a civic so I can divide that by 4 and know what it will take to get my IROC there

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I ROCK


...so you don't have to.

 

Some guy had a supercharged CRX at the Elmhust IL cruse last night. He was reving it up, I was thinking in my head, stock 70HP supercharged 120HP what a waste. I feel all types of auto crafting are cool, but please don't rev you CRX motor when you sitting next to a ZR1 and a 440 Wedge!

 

345hp Vette? what are you being cheap?
buy the Z06..up to this year 385hp 385ft lbs
buy 2002 Z06 you get 405hp!and 400ft lbs!!!
they say its 12.4 in the 1/4 mile...but...
last sunday I watched a 2001 Z06 (385 hp) go 12.54 hmmm that was rated at 12.9!
Give the Vette a few more transformations and the Viper will be looking like a waste of money

as far as 4 cylinders...I have an Impreza RS subaru....AWD...it tears ok for the street.. 15.4 is respectable for 2.5liters...just not something to brag about!

 

Good point. I was trying to be conservative (and nice). I was just trying to compare a stock Vette to a hi-po 4cyl.

Hell, I can be really nice and use the stock Z28 instead. 310bhp (underestimated by far) for about $25K, nicely equipped. How many 4 cyl engines make that kinda power WITHOUT a blower/turbo? OR can run mid-to-low 13s?

Yea they get great MPG, and they are pretty impressive sometimes. But they just don't have that nice, deep, strong, rumble of V8!!!!!

It's nice to see we still have some old fashioned, beer drinkin', tobacco spittin', ball scratchin', V8 men left in the world.

 

Why do you guys bash CRX's , I know this guy who has one with dual mufflers, wing, 5" tach, and a racing clutch, he just broke into the 16's. Just kiddin though, all that work he did to it and only a few were for actual performance.

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'86 IROC
T-TOPS, TINTED WINDOWS, BRAKE LIGHT BLACKOUTS
GM GOODWRENCH 350
EDELBROCK TES HEADERS
FLOWMASTER, NO CAT
EDELBROCK 600CFM CARB.
KN AIRFILTER
ACCEL HEI DISTRIBUTOR
160* Stat
2:73 GEARS
Rebuilt 700R4, with manual valve body
B Megashifter, 5" Autometer Tach w/shift lite
Soon to be installed
3:73 Richmond Gears and 3" Hooker Aero Chamber
Corvette Servo & .500 boost valve
15.61@ 95.2mph G-Teched, 1-2 shift slippage
"There is nothing more addicting than speed"