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Old May 1, 2005 | 05:03 PM
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Cam choice Database??

Since i'm considering a Swap toa more practical cam, i thought it would be a good idea to get some facts from board members. I would like you guys to state your cam specs plus displacement, CR and most importantly VACUME at a given idle rpm. I'll go first.

383, afr190, 9.85 cr, HSR,950 1.6 rockers
224/230 @ .050 114 LSA (lift is about 540-550) Hydraulic Roller
idling at about 1000 rpm i get 12 inches of vacume and average 12 mpg

Idle is choppy, and uneven, mileage is dismal at 12 mpg average.

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Old May 1, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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You've got problems then if your idle is choppy, with that cam in a 383 it should be really smooth especially with that 114* lsa.
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Old May 1, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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Actually it should be choppy thats a stout cam, about 280 advertised duration. It's a little too choppy for my tastes, and it's killing me on emmissions. I will be going over the motor soon to be sure but it's been that way since built. not rough anywhere else though just idle and very low rpm.

Besides i think it would be great to have a list with actual cams and realworld opinions on them.
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Old May 1, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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Engine: 350, Vortecs, 650DP
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I have a '71 Camaro with a ~ 9.5 compression 350, stock Vortec heads, Performer RPM intake, Holley 650 DP, headers and a Comp Cams Magnum 280.

It's not very choppy at all. Even with it's 110 LSA and 230* duration @.050" lift it still pulls ~12"Hg @ 700 RPM with that carb and intake.

With a TH-350 trans, 2400 stall TC, 3.42 rear gears, 245/50/16 tires I still get about 15 MPG out of it (3,000 RPM @ 65MPH).

Oh. And with my G-Tech I recorded 14.12 ET @ 104 MPH with horrible traction. Figure .2 tenth higher and ~2 mph slower at a real dragstrip, based on the average "overatures" of the G-Tech.

The Performer intake is hurting my high RPM range a little, but gosh it's fun to drive.
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Old May 1, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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Thanks! thats the kind of info i'm looking for.
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Old May 1, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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I still think your motors not running right at all. Thats a pretty tame cam for a 383. I am almost certain you have plenty of vacuum leaks.

My 305 has a XS262S-10 solid lifter cam with 224/230 duration and a 110 lsa. And its not overly choppy or uneven like your saying.
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Old May 1, 2005 | 11:35 PM
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its good to know people are sucessfully running that duration, I have no vacume leaks that i know of, its been like this for 2 edelbrock maniolds and the HSR, i have checked many times.

I think i might have mis-stated my problem. The idle is choppy and i seem to have reversion problems. I can get a decent idle if i dump fuel into it but that causes emmission headaches. What i'm looking for is the biggest cam i can run with a smooth idle and a reasonable amount of fuel. I also want better mileage and no reversion.

I figured that this would be a resource for anyone building a motor, who expects certain things from their cam choice. My car pulls like a tractor in any gear at any rpm but it could be better, and i want it better.
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Old May 4, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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You might want to try the LT4 hot cam.It should still pull to 5800-
6000.Lots of people have had made good power with that cam.
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Old May 4, 2005 | 05:42 PM
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I agree w/ ME leigh

I had a 224/234 cam in my old Trans Am which had a junkyard, 7.8:1 compression, oil buring 400 long block in it. I slapped that cam in it, some roller rockers, and my ported CFI intake and bored TB's. It pulled 15" of vacuum at 7000' elevation and idled like a completely stock engine, at 6-700 RPM. Also got 24 mpg on the highway. I agree that something seems amiss w/your combo.

For further refference, I now have another poor combo(that I didn't put together!);
A 350, TFS heads, RPM intake and RPM cam (234/244 @ .050 and 308/318 @ .006). Hurting that combo, are dished pistons resulting in about 8.5:1 compression. With some time tunning last summer, I got the vacuum to about 11" at 7000' at 1000 RPM, and it is just slightly rough at that idle speed. At 600-700 RPM it's pretty rough and I only get about 8" of vacuum. I drove the car from Mass to UT last summer and averaged 18.6 mpg on that entire 2300 mile trip. And I wasn't going slow.

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Old May 4, 2005 | 11:30 PM
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This is interesting, the car is now a second car it's basically going to get a full once over. I'm going to pull a header to repair a broken air tube, might as well pull both to make a leakdown and compression check easy.provided thats good i will dive deeper. The cam is a comp grind, i have it installed strait up. if leak down doesn't reveal a problem, i'll check that next. Other than cam timming i do not know of anything else that will cause reversion. My hsr is stained brown and had a nice coat of oil on it. All vacume lines are dry. PCV was especially clean. There are deposits on the backs of the intake valves as well. I can't remember what kind of seals the AFR's came with, i guess i'll know when i pull the valve covers. Anyhow i really wan't to get to the bottom of this. It's driving me nuts that the car makes great power even idling! but i'm having these issues. I have no problem going to a smaller cam for drivability but i wan't to know it's not somthing else.
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