What NOT to do when working on your car.
Never put a thermostat in the coolant inlet from the radiator in a Cummins 6BT. The engine actually lasted 3 hours before siezing up! It was at night and the back 3 cylinders were glowing. That was my "pre engine tinkering" days.
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Hey, I got a new one on here..just today actually.
When you take your first V8 out in the rain for the FIRST TIME...remember, it IS a V8 and it DOES have TORQUE and POSI. Bad combo. Was going about 30-35 mph down a moistened road..was in 2nd gear, and punched the gas...car went sideways, sharply, to the left. That took a throttle release and a quick counter-jerk to straighten it out..man I was scared ****less for like 0.25 seconds..after that I was just like "heh...that was cool".
When you take your first V8 out in the rain for the FIRST TIME...remember, it IS a V8 and it DOES have TORQUE and POSI. Bad combo. Was going about 30-35 mph down a moistened road..was in 2nd gear, and punched the gas...car went sideways, sharply, to the left. That took a throttle release and a quick counter-jerk to straighten it out..man I was scared ****less for like 0.25 seconds..after that I was just like "heh...that was cool".
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Car: 88 GTA, 94 BMW 840, SVX, Prelude
Engine: 383 w/ Super Ram
Transmission: built 700R4 auto
Heh, I just did that too. Coming home from work just now, the roads were so bad that my 4 cyl automatic Mustang started going sideways when it went into 2nd! I didn't even know that was possible, it has a go-kart motor in it!
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Originally posted by 85SportCoupeto89RS
Oh man your lucky there no explosion while you were gone. Driving up to a burnt down house, garage,and car is something you dont want.
Oh man your lucky there no explosion while you were gone. Driving up to a burnt down house, garage,and car is something you dont want.
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Car: 88 Camaro SC
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Transmission: TKO 500
Axle/Gears: 9-bolt w/ 3.23's
to those posts above...
lol... i cant keep it straight even when its dry out. Constantly getting waayy out of shape when i get too agressive. my response is usually "whoops.."
lol... i cant keep it straight even when its dry out. Constantly getting waayy out of shape when i get too agressive. my response is usually "whoops.."
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From: Palm Bay, Florida, USA
Car: 95 E-150 & 07 Kawasaki ZX-6R
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Transmission: A bad one & a good one
Axle/Gears: A weak one & a chained one
Lol...yeah...torque + wide tires is a horrible combo, and water makes it 100x worse. My Mustang will burn through all of first gear but doesn't quite have the torque to lay tread in 2nd, except maybe during low speeds...but it's horrible in the rain and around turns, only with throttle applied though. Otherwise, in dry weather only, it sticks like GLUE. Shocks are so hard you can barely push the damn things down..no wonder it burns so much tire, the backs are just as stiff.
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From: Palm Bay, Florida, USA
Car: 95 E-150 & 07 Kawasaki ZX-6R
Engine: A slow one & a fast one
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Ditto....it's a little jumpy sometimes.
At least it knows when to let off though. Letting off the throttle is what's saved my *** every time I've gone sideways. Sure, it's not a pretty, fluidic recovery, but those you can f*ck up and end in a ditch. This works every time..it ain't pretty but it sure as hell gets the job done and gets the car going straight in about half a second with a hell of a kick!
At least it knows when to let off though. Letting off the throttle is what's saved my *** every time I've gone sideways. Sure, it's not a pretty, fluidic recovery, but those you can f*ck up and end in a ditch. This works every time..it ain't pretty but it sure as hell gets the job done and gets the car going straight in about half a second with a hell of a kick! I don't even drive the Camaro in the rain. Those are the days for the daily drivers. My truck does play well in the snow, tho!
That's the only time the 4 ton(literally-van filled with tools and cabinets) beast can have fun.
That's the only time the 4 ton(literally-van filled with tools and cabinets) beast can have fun. Supreme Member
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Car: 1989 Corvette
Engine: 350 Tpi
Transmission: ZF 6 speed
Axle/Gears: Dana 44 3,33
Well heres one, my friend actually did this.
Dont put coolant fluid where you fill oil. Very bad thing to do. He had to tow the car home, i guess thats good because the engine probably wouldnt last long on coolant fluid instead of oil.
Dont put coolant fluid where you fill oil. Very bad thing to do. He had to tow the car home, i guess thats good because the engine probably wouldnt last long on coolant fluid instead of oil.
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From: Palm Bay, Florida, USA
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Yet ANOTHER one for here! Don't hotrod the high mileage V8 around for a few weeks, hitting redline, and expect the head gasket not to blow up.
How about this, dont pull your old oil press. sending unit and get side tracked before installing the new one by tweaking your carb with the engine running... what a mess.
and dont pull your radiator cap with the engine hot...younger years
and dont pull your radiator cap with the engine hot...younger years
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Car: 89 Camaro I-Roc z
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dont try to grab the exhaust to pull you under the car when you go to work on it after you drove it a while....Dont pull a hose off the radiator to flush it after you drove it a while...... dont stick a screwdrive in the cigarette lighter socket.....dont give fat annoying kids rides home.....dont start a project knowing damn well you have something to do in an hour cause hour projects turn into day projects and days turn to weeks and next thing you know you have to replace your water pump.....never assume that leftover bots are a factory defect.....never forget to fully tighten all lug nuts!!!!.....and if you own a camaro, dont forget to put the license plate back up after you open the hatch
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Car: 82 Z-28
Engine: 383 TPI
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Don't mount a direct reading oil press indicator under the dash and route the line so your clutch foot catches it.
Don't mount a hanger for your new exhaust pipe to the driveshaft.
(saw the results of that one
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Don't mount a hanger for your new exhaust pipe to the driveshaft.
(saw the results of that one
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Originally posted by ZZ28ZZ
Don't mount a hanger for your new exhaust pipe to the driveshaft.
(saw the results of that one
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Don't mount a hanger for your new exhaust pipe to the driveshaft.
(saw the results of that one
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LMAO... That's new.
By the way, Dimented, I love what you've done with the car....going from a 2.8 to a 350... That's a hell of a sleeper you've got there..until you start it.
By the way, Dimented, I love what you've done with the car....going from a 2.8 to a 350... That's a hell of a sleeper you've got there..until you start it.
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not sure what it was origionally but when i got it it had a sludged out 305 + a junk yard tranny in it. I dumped the 305 in favor of a new 350. Trans is still hanging in there, though
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Car: 82 Z-28
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Don't mount a hanger for your new exhaust pipe to the driveshaft.
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lol..that's pretty good. I saw a POS 66 Mustang with dual exhaust with the mufflers basically right against the axle, so he welded the mufflers with a little crossmember to the leaf springs...that car is hilarious..engine is a dirty, nasty 289, tranny is a 3 speed auto..royal piece of ****, car is covered in rust and a BAD bondo job, with a ripped up interior..kid goes to my school, trying to sell it for $7000. He said 'if the interior was in good shape, I'd be asking like $13,000'...HE WAS DEAD SERIOUS. Me and my buddies all had a good laugh at his expense.
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Seriously! This kid is beyond dumb......... It's a 66 and it's not even numbers-matching, and half the damn parts are from 65 and 67....and it has 2 rusted American Racing rims and 2 stock steel rims.
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lol i know someone is going to want to slap me for this but it sounded like the right thing at the time so here it goes.....
when ur car wont start no mater how much u try to start it and no matter how hard ur frend revs his v-6 when u try to jump it then u check the oil in the dark and it looks like it says zero dont add 5 quarts and complain that it works now but drives rough then continue adding more oil when it keeps not wanting to turn over and u find u have a massive oil leak and every time u try to turn it over the battery gets drained all the way, then u leave it in ur garage for 3 days and let the massive oil leak leak on ur nice drive way then throw a whole a$$ load of rags under neath then try to drain ur oil in a 6 quart pan convinced that even thou u lost all that oil and its still flowing alot even when it is to the over flow point, and this is the important part dont try to dip emtpy bottles of oil in the oil pan to get rid of all the extra oil then put a huge empy plastic ice cream container under it to try to catch all the extra oil then try to move the almost over flowwing pan spilling it everywhere then knocking the empy bottles covered in oil that u diped in the pan orignally to get rid of the oil becuase it makes a mess and i endded up with like 12 quarts of oil sitting in a 5 quart uncovered metal pan 5 1quart bottles and a half filled plastic ice cream container becuase they will sit next to ur car for a loooong time and they will get knocked over at least twice (still have it sitting by where i park and still have a nice big oil slick under where i park my car
and it turned out my battery was bad
so far its working now (crossing fingures)
when ur car wont start no mater how much u try to start it and no matter how hard ur frend revs his v-6 when u try to jump it then u check the oil in the dark and it looks like it says zero dont add 5 quarts and complain that it works now but drives rough then continue adding more oil when it keeps not wanting to turn over and u find u have a massive oil leak and every time u try to turn it over the battery gets drained all the way, then u leave it in ur garage for 3 days and let the massive oil leak leak on ur nice drive way then throw a whole a$$ load of rags under neath then try to drain ur oil in a 6 quart pan convinced that even thou u lost all that oil and its still flowing alot even when it is to the over flow point, and this is the important part dont try to dip emtpy bottles of oil in the oil pan to get rid of all the extra oil then put a huge empy plastic ice cream container under it to try to catch all the extra oil then try to move the almost over flowwing pan spilling it everywhere then knocking the empy bottles covered in oil that u diped in the pan orignally to get rid of the oil becuase it makes a mess and i endded up with like 12 quarts of oil sitting in a 5 quart uncovered metal pan 5 1quart bottles and a half filled plastic ice cream container becuase they will sit next to ur car for a loooong time and they will get knocked over at least twice (still have it sitting by where i park and still have a nice big oil slick under where i park my car
and it turned out my battery was bad
so far its working now (crossing fingures) Member
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From: Huntington beach, CA
Car: Camaro
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oh yes and after getting new tires dont let ur best friend/ brother (kind of) drive ur car to celebrate when hes not used to having the gas and break right next to each other he was drivin and didnt see a car infront of him and i said watch out so he slamed on the breaks like a foot away from the car but he also hit the gas so the harder he slamed on the breaks the more the back tires spun
almost got into a car accsednet the car in front of us at least had the smarts to move away into the next lane to get away from us 
i know its not really working on cars but i thought it was something interesting to post
almost got into a car accsednet the car in front of us at least had the smarts to move away into the next lane to get away from us 
i know its not really working on cars but i thought it was something interesting to post
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and one more for the road ....
when replacing the hatch back struts and u get one off then u start to take the second one off dont have it not held up becuase when u get it off it will drop down and it is very hevy! i broke my rist and was at a point that i couldnt get the trunk open was stuck there for an hour trying to get my hands in a possition to be able to open the trunk, had to wait until my dad got home before i acctually got my hand free, i never knew glass could way that much!!!!
when replacing the hatch back struts and u get one off then u start to take the second one off dont have it not held up becuase when u get it off it will drop down and it is very hevy! i broke my rist and was at a point that i couldnt get the trunk open was stuck there for an hour trying to get my hands in a possition to be able to open the trunk, had to wait until my dad got home before i acctually got my hand free, i never knew glass could way that much!!!!
A friend of mine id that oil thing. He thought the oil pressure guage told him how much oil was in there. Funny thing, the more he added, the lower the pressure got....
he ended up with 4 gallons in a four-banger dodge.
he ended up with 4 gallons in a four-banger dodge. Member
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From: Huntington beach, CA
Car: Camaro
Engine: 5.slow
Transmission: 5 speed manual
Originally posted by lockdude
A friend of mine id that oil thing. He thought the oil pressure guage told him how much oil was in there. Funny thing, the more he added, the lower the pressure got....
he ended up with 4 gallons in a four-banger dodge.
A friend of mine id that oil thing. He thought the oil pressure guage told him how much oil was in there. Funny thing, the more he added, the lower the pressure got....
he ended up with 4 gallons in a four-banger dodge.
Originally posted by SuperTrans Man
when ur car wont start no mater how much u try to start it and no matter how hard ur frend revs his v-6 when u try to jump it then u check the oil in the dark and it looks like it says zero dont add 5 quarts and complain that it works now but drives rough then continue adding more oil when it keeps not wanting to turn over and u find u have a massive oil leak and every time u try to turn it over the battery gets drained all the way, then u leave it in ur garage for 3 days and let the massive oil leak leak on ur nice drive way then throw a whole a$$ load of rags under neath then try to drain ur oil in a 6 quart pan convinced that even thou u lost all that oil and its still flowing alot even when it is to the over flow point, and this is the important part dont try to dip emtpy bottles of oil in the oil pan to get rid of all the extra oil then put a huge empy plastic ice cream container under it to try to catch all the extra oil then try to move the almost over flowwing pan spilling it everywhere then knocking the empy bottles covered in oil that u diped in the pan orignally to get rid of the oil becuase it makes a mess and i endded up with like 12 quarts of oil sitting in a 5 quart uncovered metal pan 5 1quart bottles and a half filled plastic ice cream container becuase they will sit next to ur car for a loooong time and they will get knocked over at least twice (still have it sitting by where i park and still have a nice big oil slick under where i park my car
and it turned out my battery was bad
so far its working now (crossing fingures)
when ur car wont start no mater how much u try to start it and no matter how hard ur frend revs his v-6 when u try to jump it then u check the oil in the dark and it looks like it says zero dont add 5 quarts and complain that it works now but drives rough then continue adding more oil when it keeps not wanting to turn over and u find u have a massive oil leak and every time u try to turn it over the battery gets drained all the way, then u leave it in ur garage for 3 days and let the massive oil leak leak on ur nice drive way then throw a whole a$$ load of rags under neath then try to drain ur oil in a 6 quart pan convinced that even thou u lost all that oil and its still flowing alot even when it is to the over flow point, and this is the important part dont try to dip emtpy bottles of oil in the oil pan to get rid of all the extra oil then put a huge empy plastic ice cream container under it to try to catch all the extra oil then try to move the almost over flowwing pan spilling it everywhere then knocking the empy bottles covered in oil that u diped in the pan orignally to get rid of the oil becuase it makes a mess and i endded up with like 12 quarts of oil sitting in a 5 quart uncovered metal pan 5 1quart bottles and a half filled plastic ice cream container becuase they will sit next to ur car for a loooong time and they will get knocked over at least twice (still have it sitting by where i park and still have a nice big oil slick under where i park my car
and it turned out my battery was bad
so far its working now (crossing fingures) By far the LONGEST single sentence I have ever read in my entire life.
Where the **** is the punctuation??
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Originally posted by 84Z28_5.7ltr_V8
uhhh. the more oil you add,, the less pressure??? what???
uhhh. the more oil you add,, the less pressure??? what???
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Car: 1986 IROC-Z
Originally posted by 84Z28_5.7ltr_V8
wouldnt air create MORE pressure??? like if you fill up a balloon with air it gets bigger.... see what i mean..
wouldnt air create MORE pressure??? like if you fill up a balloon with air it gets bigger.... see what i mean..
Say you have the required amount of oil in your engine, and there's one cubic foot of air space (volume of crankcase minus volume of oil), and your oil gauge reads 50psi. Then, you decide to pour in more oil than you need. Let's say you reduce your airspace by one-half. Now, you have one-half cubic foot of air space. What you want to know is the pressure under these conditions. Your equation would be:
50psi * 1 cu. ft. = x psi * 0.5 cu. ft.
Solving the equation gives you the answer of 100 psi that's being exerted on the oil in the crankcase. That probably isn't a real-world answer, but you get the idea.
I just thought up that explanation right now, but it makes sense. Can someone validate it for me?
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Duhhhhh, whaa? Keep math away from me! Ahh!
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aerated oil has a lower viscosity and will flow at a lower pressure (theoretically). Lets not forget that it will also trash the internals as well.
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Car: 1992 Firebird
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Transmission: '93 T-56
Axle/Gears: 3.27 9 bolt posi with PBR discs
Originally posted by 84Z28_5.7ltr_V8
wouldnt air create MORE pressure??? like if you fill up a balloon with air it gets bigger.... see what i mean..
wouldnt air create MORE pressure??? like if you fill up a balloon with air it gets bigger.... see what i mean..
-Paul
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Transmission: '93 T-56
Axle/Gears: 3.27 9 bolt posi with PBR discs
Didn't think I was starting an argument, sorry if folks thought I was
well, just don't respond to my post if it'll start an argument
sorry about that.
-Paul
edit: I was basically agreeing with what you said Dimented
well, just don't respond to my post if it'll start an argument
sorry about that.-Paul
edit: I was basically agreeing with what you said Dimented
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not you... just always seems that everyone [including myslef sometimes] gets off on a tangent and before you know it, threads gone.
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man speaking of argument... I just remembered this one: dont slam the doors on a thirdgen. My brother and his girlfriend were having an argument in the car and at teh end, they both went "well, is that so??? well, FINE! ok, FINE!" Witht aht they both slamed the doors and simultaniously, the windows blew out and shot glass EVERYWHERE. After that we just sat there in silence.
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Ha ha..yeah...back to stupid stuff. I got one. When you get your car back from Jiffy Lube after an "oil change"..when you check your oil and notice it's dark brown, take your damn car back, don't be a wimp. Yeah, they pumped the old oil out alright. And they pumped dirty oil from the reservoir right back in. F*cking @ssholes.. They blew my friend's car up too. Left his drainplug just loose enough to cause a slow oil leak....he was wondering why his car ran so rough...he thought he needed a tuneup until his Check Oil light came on in his Saturn. Bone dry. Shortly after it developed a knock. Just got out of the shop having the motor rebuilt about 2-3 weeks ago.
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one last thing,
if you have a liter of oil... there is lots of room for air to move around.. then lets say you have 10 liters of oil, not as much space for air to move around, therefore more pressure, air is being PACKED in a small space..
if you have a liter of oil... there is lots of room for air to move around.. then lets say you have 10 liters of oil, not as much space for air to move around, therefore more pressure, air is being PACKED in a small space..




