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Old Nov 6, 2001 | 12:24 PM
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If were a rich snob what would you build 350or400.

Lets leave the money situation out of this. Im not rich or anything like that I just have alot of time and time is money. So if you had the time and money would you build a 350 or 400???żżż


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Old Nov 6, 2001 | 01:07 PM
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If ya got deep pockets I'd build the biggest smallblock with the best heads, rods and crank going. Check out the Bill Mitchell engine shop strokers and others.
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Old Nov 6, 2001 | 01:38 PM
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There's no replacement for displacement.

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Old Nov 6, 2001 | 02:41 PM
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i would go with the 400 becasue you can be more original + you cant argue with There's no replacement for displacement
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Old Nov 6, 2001 | 02:52 PM
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if you got time, 400 is the way to go.. the issue w/400 is the details you need to go through to make sure everything is right. Not really financial.
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Old Nov 6, 2001 | 09:46 PM
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man im not rich and i'm building a 400

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Old Nov 6, 2001 | 09:53 PM
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why not a 416(I think that was the world casting)
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Old Nov 6, 2001 | 10:42 PM
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What's the biggest displacement that will fit into a Thirdgen? Will a big block 455 fit?
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Old Nov 6, 2001 | 11:45 PM
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If you were rich you wouldn't even think about using a SBC and if you did you wouldn't be making soming small like a 400. More likle a 434.

Biggest engine that can be dropped into a thirdgen "easily" is a short deck 540" merlin engine. Going to a tall deck BBC will require a few modifications such as no heater assembly or wiper motor but you can go to a 622" engine.

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Old Nov 7, 2001 | 12:02 AM
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434* with a set of sprint car heads and then add a fogger

you'd make about 820hp ON MOTOR

and about 1100-1150 on the juice
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Old Nov 7, 2001 | 03:37 AM
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Stephen beat me to it with the 540, but if you want to stay smallblock, Bill Mitchell has a 427 small block that is pretty cool.
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Old Nov 7, 2001 | 05:55 AM
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I have 5 engine stands loaded 327,350,283.400 and a 302 clevor now I know why I'm not rich
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Old Nov 7, 2001 | 10:45 PM
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not a 350 or a 400, but a combination-377. The 400 block with the 350 crank-forged, preferably an aluminum block with a solid roller cam(around 550 lift), the best heads you can buy ported beyond belief, at least 10.5:1 compression, aluminum rods, perfectly balanced forged pistons as loght as they come, electric waterpump, superram, or other expensive efficient fuel injection, with at least one turbo, full length headers true duals.... ... i could go on and on.
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Old Nov 8, 2001 | 01:20 PM
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If I was a rich snob.

I'd buy a 2002 396 30TH anniversary
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Old Nov 8, 2001 | 01:43 PM
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If I was a rich snob I'd buy a BMW M3. But I'm not a snob, so if I was rich I'd buy a new Firebird or Camaro... then again it depends how rich I am. But since I'm not a snob and not rich, I keep looking for a 3rd gen Camaro. Go with whatever engine makes you happy.
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Old Nov 8, 2001 | 02:03 PM
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If I was rich I'd build an all alluminum bigblock with two more cylinders grafted on. Theres no replacement for displacement.

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Old Nov 8, 2001 | 02:31 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by LottaBallsCamaro:
If I was rich I'd build an all alluminum bigblock with two more cylinders grafted on. Theres no replacement for displacement.
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Somebody already beat u to it

http://www.falconerengines.com/
(uses BB chevy parts)


On second thought, don't go there. you get a lot of frikin popup windows.

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Old Nov 8, 2001 | 06:26 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by prowler:
If I was a rich snob.

I'd buy a 2002 396 30TH anniversary
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Sorry for sounding stupid but what car are you referring to.



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GM GOODWRENCH 350
EDELBROCK TES HEADERS
3" Hooker CatBack w/Aero Chamber muffler
EDELBROCK 600CFM CARB.
KN AIRFILTER
ACCEL HEI DISTRIBUTOR
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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 09:27 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by LottaBallsCamaro:
If I was rich I'd build an all alluminum bigblock with two more cylinders grafted on. Theres no replacement for displacement.

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Oh yeah, you can do that? Like a 10 cylinder big block? That would rock so Fuc*ing hard.

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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 12:10 PM
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If I had the money I would drop a supercharged 327 in and blast the crap out of 99% of the BBC's!
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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 06:52 PM
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If I was a rich snob, I wouldn't be talking to you...LOL

If I were a rich snob I would want to build a fast "sleeper", we're talking something that could compete with the exotic sports cars......Zero to 60 in around 4 seconds, handling that is out of this world, top end speed over 200 mph......

In Chevy Rumble they featured a supercharged small block 427....something along those lines. But instead of the super chicken version, rather a twin turbo...set up properly!!!

Oh, and of course the 6 speed, suspension mods out the wazoo, and a hefty, very heft rear end.


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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 09:38 PM
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I'm not a rich snob, but I put my money where my mouth is. I went for a 400.

What's "rich" got to do with it? If you have to buy a core anyway, a 400 doesn't really cost any more to rebuild than a 305... a few technical hurdles to overcome but nothing that a brainless moron (like me) can't handle.

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