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Has anyone used QuickSeat to break in rings?

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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 08:28 AM
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Has anyone used QuickSeat to break in rings?

Yours thoughts? I stumbled across this product the other day and was wondering if it really works? Its made by Total Seal. I think what you do is coat the cylinder walls with it and install the pistons/rings dry or with a little 30W, I'm not sure. Anyway, tell me what you know. Thanks.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 09:11 AM
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I used it along with TSS gapless rings. I think the stuff works great! Your cylinder walls have to be really clean before you use it though...if it's clean, it'll leave a greenish film, and if not it'll be a black film.

I bought a tiny container of it - and when you see how small the container of the stuff is, you'd say there's no way it would be enough - but it is. I only used half of mine. From what I've seen, it does what it says - makes your rings initially seat within the first few minutes of break-in. Only oil you use is a light film of WD-40 on the pistons, then you drive em in!
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 09:43 AM
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I'm not using gapless rings, is that an issue?

So the rings are installed dry? And light coating of WD-40 on the piston skirts?

I have a roller cam so the only break in I need to worry about is the rings, so I want to make sure they seat as fast as possible.

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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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No, don't use it on standard rings. In actuality, it should only take 10-15 minutes to seat the rings anyway.
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Coach Hawk
No, don't use it on standard rings. In actuality, it should only take 10-15 minutes to seat the rings anyway.
I would have said the same thing above a couple of years ago before I tried it. I had a problem with my current engine burning oil. The oil rings never seated properly. I waited till I had 2K miles on it, and fouled 2 sets of spark plugs before I ended up tearing the whole engine down again, had the cylinders re-honed and installed a new set of rings. I also used the "Quickseat" powder. Now I have great compression and it doesn't smoke! And it's not just for gapless rings either.

And in all fairness, I've rebuilt several engines before this, and had no problems with rings seating without using quickseal powder. But now that I have used it, I consider it cheap insurance!
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 10:06 AM
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Thanks for the insight. I think I'm going to try some of this stuff. Cheap insurance is the key right there.
On your second time around with your engine, did you find quickseat, or did your machinist recommend it?
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Thomas Aquinas
Thanks for the insight. I think I'm going to try some of this stuff. Cheap insurance is the key right there.
On your second time around with your engine, did you find quickseat, or did your machinist recommend it?
I worked with a different machinst when I got the engine re-honed. He's the one that said to give it a try - I told him my whole story about my oil rings not seating so he recommended it figuring -after all, what would it hurt?. Of course they don't tell you what the stuff is, it seems to be mostly graphite powder, maybe with some type of ultra fine grit.

He'd had a few others customers that swore by it.
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