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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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Engine runs rough at idle

As some of you may know, I replaced my driver's side head gasket. Well, I got it all back together, but it isnt running right. It would die at idle yesterday, but today I got the timing set, now it idles, just very rough and it doesn't feel like it has its power anymore when driving it. I can't find any missing vaccuum hoses or disconnected ones, all wires are hooked up as far as i can tell. I also just tuned the car up while it was torn apart (new spark plugs and new filters).

Any ideas?
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 07:52 PM
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Have you got the firing order right?
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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Yessir, and my dad said that it doesn't seem like its running bad enough to be timing order.

But I checked the firing order a couple times to make sure
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 11:04 PM
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What did you set the timing to?

Sounds like it could use a bit more advance...
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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I set it to 6* BTC like the emissions sticker said to for an auto.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 05:51 PM
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Did you set it with the vac adv hooked up or disconnected?
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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you mean the EST connector. it shouldn't have vac advance.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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I think I disconnected the EST connector. Chilton's manual said to disconnect the 4-wire EST connector, which is connected to the distibutor, so I disconnected the only 4 wire plug around there I could find, then set the timing.

I'm gonna compression check the cylinders when I get a chance to make sure the passenger side wasn't screwed up too (I only replaced the driver side one since thats the only one we found water in).
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 08:39 PM
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Wrong plug. Look above your heater box on the firewall. There will be a large wiring harness with a brown and black wire sticking out. That wire will have a connector in it, should be right up on top. Disconnect that with the engine OFF, then start the engine and set the timing.

Make sure the 4-wire connection to the distributor is left connected while you set the timing.

Hope that helps.
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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Well, I found the problem. After compression testing the cylinders, I discovered that there was poor compression on the side I replaced, but didn't know why. So I hooked an air compressor up and shot air in through the spark plug holes and it sounded like it was getting into the intake manifold. Took the head back off, did a leak test with some gas, and it went right through some of the valves. I'm gonna have the head redone by a machine shop and then put it back together.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 02:10 AM
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Are you sure you just didn't have the valves lashed wrong?
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Apeiron
Are you sure you just didn't have the valves lashed wrong?
^^^

Could be misadjusted rockers!

If you crank them down too much it will cause the valve to stay open a bit and 'leak'
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