Is coolant really necessary
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Car: 92 GTA/ 00 TA
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Is coolant really necessary
My engine's finally going in the car tomorrow. My dad wants to help. He also wants to be there for the initial start-up. My problem is that since i'm re-routing my coolant hoses and I can't get proper lengths without the engine in the car, he won't stay late so I need to start it right away.
Will doing this mess up my water pump? If I start it it'll only run until I get oil through all the rockers.
I'm also going to leave the tranny disconnected since i'm sure i'll have a dipstick issue (tall valve covers) hence no tranny fluid either.
Will doing this mess up my water pump? If I start it it'll only run until I get oil through all the rockers.
I'm also going to leave the tranny disconnected since i'm sure i'll have a dipstick issue (tall valve covers) hence no tranny fluid either.
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Re: Is coolant really necessary
It'll have oil.
This'll be the initial startup. Seems to take longer for the oil to get to the rockers. I did however prime it a week ago.
So I should be fine in running it for prolly no more than 60 seconds. Cool.
This'll be the initial startup. Seems to take longer for the oil to get to the rockers. I did however prime it a week ago.
So I should be fine in running it for prolly no more than 60 seconds. Cool.
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Re: Is coolant really necessary
it would be like starting a boat motor out of water with no muffs on it.
I probably would not do that personally.
I probably would not do that personally.
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Re: Is coolant really necessary
Sounds pretty pointless to me.
Personally, I don't ever start a new motor until it's COMPLETELY ready; like, to the point where I can crank it up and immediately (and I do mean IMMEDIATELY) back it down the driveway and take it for a drive.
Resist the urge to do this. It provides no useful benefit whatsoever, and only carries the potential for creating problems.
Personally, I don't ever start a new motor until it's COMPLETELY ready; like, to the point where I can crank it up and immediately (and I do mean IMMEDIATELY) back it down the driveway and take it for a drive.
Resist the urge to do this. It provides no useful benefit whatsoever, and only carries the potential for creating problems.
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Re: Is coolant really necessary
Sounds pretty pointless to me.
Personally, I don't ever start a new motor until it's COMPLETELY ready; like, to the point where I can crank it up and immediately (and I do mean IMMEDIATELY) back it down the driveway and take it for a drive.
Resist the urge to do this. It provides no useful benefit whatsoever, and only carries the potential for creating problems.
Personally, I don't ever start a new motor until it's COMPLETELY ready; like, to the point where I can crank it up and immediately (and I do mean IMMEDIATELY) back it down the driveway and take it for a drive.
Resist the urge to do this. It provides no useful benefit whatsoever, and only carries the potential for creating problems.
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Re: Is coolant really necessary
Yea, i'd wait. Once it's all buttoned up, you're bound to have SOME leaks somewhere anyway, murphy stands close... So that initial fire up will lose it's appeal when you're mopping up fluids anyway.
I'm obviously assuming this is a roller cam eh?
I'd wait until you *think* it's ready to drive it out the driveway, then fire it up with extra people watching, for fires, for leaks, for...(everything else that *will* go wrong). Then in a few days you will actually get to drive it
Gee, can you tell i'm bitter?
I'm obviously assuming this is a roller cam eh?
I'd wait until you *think* it's ready to drive it out the driveway, then fire it up with extra people watching, for fires, for leaks, for...(everything else that *will* go wrong). Then in a few days you will actually get to drive it
Gee, can you tell i'm bitter?
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From: w. jordan utah
Car: 86 Z-28
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700-r4
Re: Is coolant really necessary
i'd be more worried about new cam break in time than just to hear it run for a sec. you should run it at around 1400 to 1600 for around 3 to 4 miniutes to break that new cam in and without coolant it will blow
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Re: Is coolant really necessary
If its just for break in, just use straight water in the cooling system. Dump it out and put in some antifreeze later.
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Re: Is coolant really necessary
5.7 - The flexplate wouldn't have been bolted to the TC.
surfertom - roller cam
Everyone else - thanks for the advice. Turns out it's not going to happen anyway. I can't even mount the engine to Spohn's K-member. Their jig must be messed up. I have that post here
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/susp...-member-6.html
Looks like I won't be starting it now until it is ready to roll out of the garage.
Link won't work. Suspension chassis forum titled Spohn K-member.
surfertom - roller cam
Everyone else - thanks for the advice. Turns out it's not going to happen anyway. I can't even mount the engine to Spohn's K-member. Their jig must be messed up. I have that post here
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/susp...-member-6.html
Looks like I won't be starting it now until it is ready to roll out of the garage.
Link won't work. Suspension chassis forum titled Spohn K-member.
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