Begin with Headers and/or Intake?
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Car: 1991 Camaro RS
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Begin with Headers and/or Intake?
Soon I'll starting my engine rebuild with one of my 350's I have laying around and I'm looking to prep up my little 305 for the current meantime. I figured If i spend any money that will have to stay with the 305 it'd just be an Intake manifold and carb. I was thinking I'd put some headers (mid-range or long) on the 305 and reuse them on the 350 (350 block w/ LT1 heads). How does this sound and can I get by with it pretty simply? I figured a simple intake/exhaust upgrade on the 305 would help it out pretty well, from what I hear the exhaust is horrible on the L03. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Car: 92 GTA/ 00 TA
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Re: Begin with Headers and/or Intake?
The general belief is to start from the rear and work forward.
Exhaust is a good place to start.
If you can't get the air out of the engine, you won't be able to get more in.
Exhaust is a good place to start.
If you can't get the air out of the engine, you won't be able to get more in.
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Re: Begin with Headers and/or Intake?
Yes do your exhaust first. Biggest bang for the buck. After the exhaust then the intake system. If you do the intake first you won't get the maximum.
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Re: Begin with Headers and/or Intake?
Thanks for the feedback guys! I decided to start with the exhaust now.. I'm just worried about fitting issues.
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Re: Begin with Headers and/or Intake?
Forgot to ask: What kind of headers should I be looking at? Brand? Size? Going to keep it Y-pipe also.
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I'm partial to the Hooker 2055HKR. Best y-pipe out there; headers support stock to built engines. Some minor fabrication required to put on a non-TPI car (for the A.I.R. pipe on the driver's side). These are '86-'90 TPI single cat application headers, getting the rest of the exhaust for that application as well highly recommended.
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Re: Begin with Headers and/or Intake?
Will these preform better then long tubes?
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Re: Begin with Headers and/or Intake?
Longtubes - more torque
Shorties - less torque more hp
I went with Hedman longtubes.
Shorties - less torque more hp
I went with Hedman longtubes.
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Re: Begin with Headers and/or Intake?
I have to agree with 5 7. I have shorties on a otherwise stock RS(besides a K+N) and don't notice much of a difference powerwise. Gas mileage went up a couple mpg. Engine definately breathes easier, but not really a seat of thepants difference.
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Re: Begin with Headers and/or Intake?
i threw set of shorty headmens and a ypipe under my 89 rs and it made a little difference. formula wise the engine will breath better especially with the open element. btw its headers to tips WIIIDE OPEN!! sounds great
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Re: Begin with Headers and/or Intake?
Until the rest of my exhaust gets here i'm running longtubes with header extensions and a lopey cam. Talk about vibration!!! My house vibrates.
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Re: Begin with Headers and/or Intake?
Well I see those headers have the A.I.R crap that came with the TBI but won't that be useless once my LT1 is built and swapped in there? I'm shooting for a 350HP motor also with the LT1 so would shorty's still help in that situation?
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That's approximately what my 350 is putting out (gross flywheel).
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