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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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thinking about building an engine

I am thinking about building a small block for my 92 formula and I had a few combinations in mine, but first I have a few questions. First off, what is the max a 350 can be punched out to safely? Second I am debating if a supersharger is going to be an addition so what is reccomended for compression with a super charger? Also, who makes decent lightweight internals??
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 07:01 PM
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Re: thinking about building an engine

I wouldnt bore a 350 anymore than 60 over unless you want major problems. Superchargers dont need globs of compression so with a 350 don't run flat-tops pistons and try to stay below 9.0to1 compression.

On the same note, machining any motor for larger pistions raises compression.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 07:15 PM
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engines should be bored only enough to clean up the cylinder walls, you would feel no difference in peformance between a 4.000 inch bore and a 4.060 bore.
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 05:38 PM
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If you are absolutely sure that you are going with a supercharger, then build it with 8.5:1 compression ratio. If you have a used 350 block, just go 30 over (4.030" bore). This will force you to buy new pistons. And while you are at it, you best buy a forged crank due to the supercharger, so you might as well build a 383. There are plenty of good engine parts for a 383 build and several manufacturers of these parts.

BTW: not all 350 blocks can be bored out to 60 over; most maybe but not all. That is why two of us are recommending 30 over.

When I built my 395 cu.in. stroker, I did alot of research on the matter. Do alot of searches and bookmark the engine component sites that you find. Also, buy a couple engine build-up books. The most important component that you are going to buy is the crankshaft. I went with the forged Callies Dragon Slayer. I think that its the best forged crank for the money. Well, thats my 2 cents worth.
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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Re: thinking about building an engine

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If you are absolutely sure that you are going with a supercharger, then build it with 8.5:1 compression ratio. If you have a used 350 block, just go 30 over (4.030" bore). This will force you to buy new pistons. And while you are at it, you best buy a forged crank due to the supercharger, so you might as well build a 383. There are plenty of good engine parts for a 383 build and several manufacturers of these parts.

BTW: not all 350 blocks can be bored out to 60 over; most maybe but not all. That is why two of us are recommending 30 over.

When I built my 395 cu.in. stroker, I did alot of research on the matter. Do alot of searches and bookmark the engine component sites that you find. Also, buy a couple engine build-up books. The most important component that you are going to buy is the crankshaft. I went with the forged Callies Dragon Slayer. I think that its the best forged crank for the money. Well, thats my 2 cents worth.

Doc, not at all recomending a .060 overbore....just if it has to go to that much of an extreme anything over .060 might as well be thrown away.

I agree that .030 over is not only reletively standard but safe and would never recommend a motor be cut anymore unless it absolutely had to be.
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 06:43 PM
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Jay: Please dont take me wrong here. I was not coming out here for a fight. I guess we do agree that 30 over is common place and well recommended for a "safe" over bore amount.
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 08:06 PM
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I had a .060 over motor that lasted for about 3k miles in a buddy's ride, I got it and it and rehoned it and as soon as I drove ita round the block, one of the bores cracked.

If you can get away with it, punch .010 over. There's no need to use up a block that way. The more meat you leave in the bores the more rebuilds that block can take.

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And this was a nice 4-bolt block from a 72 Chevelle I think. Probably superstitiously regarded as a "desirable" casting. Didnt do much for me except cost me a bunch of money.
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 11:02 PM
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Hey thanks gents. I appreciate all the info. WHat are some good books to read?
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 04:46 PM
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Re: thinking about building an engine

Chevy High performance Engine Assembly Guide by Alex Walordy.
and
How to rebuild Your Small-Block Chevy by David Vizard (HPBOOKS)
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