Tech / General Engine Is your car making a strange sound or won't start? Thinking of adding power with a new combination? Need other technical information or engine specific advice? Don't see another board for your problem? Post it here!
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

Need help with serpentine belt drive install

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 4, 2009 | 09:02 PM
  #1  
tpiselli's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
From: Shenandoah Valley, Virginia
Car: 83 T/A, 83 S.C., 86 S.C. & IROC
Engine: 305 CFI &TPI
Transmission: 4L60E, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23, 2.73
Need help with serpentine belt drive install

I recently picked up an 88 GTA that originally had a 5.0 & manual transmission setup but, the 305 is long gone and a 350 is in its place. Unfortunately, when the 350 went in the serpentine belt drive was ditched for a very hacked v-belt system (I have wire nuts used to lengthen the alternator wires to the other side of the engine bay just to give you an idea how how well the install was done). The 88 Firebird shop manual doesn't show how to remove/install the serpentine belt brackets let alone tell me which bolt to use where and what the torque values are. So, I'm wondering if anyone has an install diagram similar to what GM includes as part # 12490896 in its serpentine system for gen one engines. I'd appreciate any help.
Thanks,
Reply
Old Sep 5, 2009 | 01:25 PM
  #2  
topfile's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 60
Likes: 2
Re: Need help with serpentine belt drive install

You might Try poking around these links?:

http://www.daycoproducts.com/daycowe...Truck!OpenPage

http://www.mvreader.com/multiview/dayco/index.php
Reply
Old Sep 5, 2009 | 09:23 PM
  #3  
camaronewbie's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 9,192
Likes: 19
From: Cary, North Carolina
Car: 1992 RS
Engine: Carbed 350
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 posi
Re: Need help with serpentine belt drive install

Here's pics:

https://www.thirdgen.org/serpentine

Not sure about exact torque - I just tighten them down good and tight - you're bolting into the block, so it's not like stripping is as easy as in let's say an aluminum intake manifold.
Reply
Old Sep 5, 2009 | 09:29 PM
  #4  
tpiselli's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
From: Shenandoah Valley, Virginia
Car: 83 T/A, 83 S.C., 86 S.C. & IROC
Engine: 305 CFI &TPI
Transmission: 4L60E, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23, 2.73
Re: Need help with serpentine belt drive install

Originally Posted by topfile
Thanks for the tip but I didn't see any diagrams when I checked out those links; just part numbers and so on.
Thanks, anyway,
Tony
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2009 | 10:14 AM
  #5  
tpiselli's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
From: Shenandoah Valley, Virginia
Car: 83 T/A, 83 S.C., 86 S.C. & IROC
Engine: 305 CFI &TPI
Transmission: 4L60E, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23, 2.73
Re: Need help with serpentine belt drive install

Originally Posted by camaronewbie
Here's pics:

https://www.thirdgen.org/serpentine

Not sure about exact torque - I just tighten them down good and tight - you're bolting into the block, so it's not like stripping is as easy as in let's say an aluminum intake manifold.
Thanks for the tip. The one picture shows the bolts for the alternator and power steering bracket very well. Are all of the bolts that go through the bracket and into the engine the same size or do they change? Also. are you using thread locker on the bolts as well?
Thanks,
Tony
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2009 | 10:46 AM
  #6  
JamesC's Avatar
Moderator
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 19,282
Likes: 103
From: Lawrence, KS
Car: Met. Silver 85 IROC/Sold
Engine: 350 HO Deluxe (350ci/330hp)
Transmission: T-5 (Non-WC)
Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3.23's
Re: Need help with serpentine belt drive install

Below.

JamesC

Last edited by JamesC; Sep 6, 2009 at 10:50 AM. Reason: Ignorant knob
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2009 | 10:49 AM
  #7  
JamesC's Avatar
Moderator
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 19,282
Likes: 103
From: Lawrence, KS
Car: Met. Silver 85 IROC/Sold
Engine: 350 HO Deluxe (350ci/330hp)
Transmission: T-5 (Non-WC)
Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3.23's
Re: Need help with serpentine belt drive install

You'll find the following instructions (12490896) very helpful, I think:

http://static.atechmotorsports.com/g...l-12497698.pdf

Actually, my serp review may generally come in handy as well:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/afte...rsion-kit.html

JamesC

Last edited by JamesC; Sep 6, 2009 at 10:59 AM.
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2009 | 01:20 PM
  #8  
camaronewbie's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 9,192
Likes: 19
From: Cary, North Carolina
Car: 1992 RS
Engine: Carbed 350
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 posi
Re: Need help with serpentine belt drive install

All the bolts that hold the accessory brackets themselves to the engine will all be the same diameter and thread pitch, since they all screw into the accessory holes on the heads. But I don't remember, they may be varying lengths - it depends on the boss heights on the brackets - I want to think they are all identical, but I'm not 100%.

I do remember some are actual bolts (I think torx heads on mine), as well as nuts that attach to studs that are on the block or heads.

I never used any threadlocker - just snugged them up good and tight.

If you need the brackets themselves, I just removed mine for a setup off a 1987 IROC that is half serp and half v-belt.
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2009 | 02:51 PM
  #9  
tpiselli's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
From: Shenandoah Valley, Virginia
Car: 83 T/A, 83 S.C., 86 S.C. & IROC
Engine: 305 CFI &TPI
Transmission: 4L60E, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23, 2.73
Re: Need help with serpentine belt drive install

Originally Posted by JamesC
You'll find the following instructions (12490896) very helpful, I think:

http://static.atechmotorsports.com/g...l-12497698.pdf

Actually, my serp review may generally come in handy as well:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/afte...rsion-kit.html

JamesC
Thanks James, both of those links were very useful, especially the instruction sheet as it also showed the bolts/fasteners as well as giving the torque values. This will go a long way to getting the GTA back in shape.
Thanks again,
Tony
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
1992 Trans Am
History / Originality
27
May 10, 2023 07:19 PM
Vintageracer
Camaros for Sale
12
Jan 10, 2020 05:33 PM
mcquigg
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
0
Aug 13, 2015 02:26 PM
jahblah
Tech / General Engine
5
Aug 12, 2015 05:54 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:10 AM.