Tech / General Engine Is your car making a strange sound or won't start? Thinking of adding power with a new combination? Need other technical information or engine specific advice? Don't see another board for your problem? Post it here!
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

crate engine + supercharger?

Old Nov 8, 2009 | 01:50 PM
  #1  
79_T/A_guy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 92
Likes: 0
From: Pensacola FL
Car: 1978 Trans am
Engine: 6.6 400
Transmission: TH350
Axle/Gears: Good question
crate engine + supercharger?

Ok,

so i was looking at having a 454 block built specifically for a supercharger, however i have since decided to use that build for another project and was hoping to catch a break.

I have been considering this crate motor from summit for alittle while:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MLL-BP3830CTC/

however i was curious if bolting on a supercharger would be a good idea? any ideas if the motor could even take it, or would it be a horrible idea?

here is a supercharger i was considering bolting on:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/WN...1/?image=large

I was originally look at a 8-71 roots supercharger but i was unsure if i wanted to bother with such a big setup on a sbc.

im open to any ideas or criticism. id like to keep this as low budget as a supercharged project can be. however if there is another supercharger that would work better or be cheaper and more daily driver friendly let me know.

thanks in advance,

-alex
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2009 | 02:25 PM
  #2  
irocinblue89's Avatar
Junior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
From: N.E. Ohio
Car: 89 iroc
Engine: zz383/compcam/gmpp intake/holley770
Transmission: 700r4 w/all the goodies
Axle/Gears: 4th gen 3:23w/powertrax
Re: crate engine + supercharger?

2 things bother me about putting a s/c on that motor: 1 the compression and 2 the pistons are not forged. I'm not saying it wont work, just my 2 cents.
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2009 | 02:37 PM
  #3  
Gumby's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 8,113
Likes: 6
From: NWOhioToledoArea
Car: 86-FireBird
Engine: -MPFI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3:42
Re: crate engine + supercharger?

Any engine can take 5-7PSI of boost, reguardless of how you get it; if the stock compression ratio isn't through the roof already.

After that a proper tune is in order.

If your DET'n all over the place, even a built for it engine will go poopoo
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2009 | 04:10 PM
  #4  
79_T/A_guy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 92
Likes: 0
From: Pensacola FL
Car: 1978 Trans am
Engine: 6.6 400
Transmission: TH350
Axle/Gears: Good question
Re: crate engine + supercharger?

Originally Posted by irocinblue89
2 things bother me about putting a s/c on that motor: 1 the compression and 2 the pistons are not forged. I'm not saying it wont work, just my 2 cents.
ya, i noticed it wasnt forged pistons so i did think about that. however a supercharged motor would i want a lower compression ratio? or higher? im guessing lower.
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2009 | 10:05 PM
  #5  
Gumby's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 8,113
Likes: 6
From: NWOhioToledoArea
Car: 86-FireBird
Engine: -MPFI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3:42
Re: crate engine + supercharger?

In general unless your having an engine special built for a said purpose....
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2009 | 12:32 PM
  #6  
redtruck18's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
From: Augusta, GA
Car: 1987 RS Camaro
Engine: 305 V8 (Carb)
Transmission: 700R4
Re: crate engine + supercharger?

A supercharged engine will NEED lower compression. Same idea with a turbo setup. basically its a forced induction system. meaning you Force air into the engine, subsequently raising its compression ratio. But i agree that 5-7 lbs of boost arent worth being nervous over... ***correction, a supercharged engine doesnt "need" lower compression, you could run like 116 octane through it just fine... lower compression just translates into what gas you use. If you could get your hands on some E85..... that stuffs amazing and really high octane, seing as its pretty much 15% liquor....
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2009 | 04:25 PM
  #7  
InfernalVortex's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Liked
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 6,499
Likes: 31
From: Macon, GA
Car: 1992 Camaro RS
Engine: Vortec headed 355, xe262
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 9-bolt 3.70
Re: crate engine + supercharger?

yeah I always thuoght it would be interesting to run a 9.5:1 engine with forced induction on ethanol. But I was just reading on wikipedia and it was sying that the real world octane rating of ethanol is only 94-96.

Last edited by InfernalVortex; Nov 10, 2009 at 04:29 PM.
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2009 | 09:05 AM
  #8  
RED_DRAGON_85's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,298
Likes: 2
From: Norfolk VA
Car: 85 Camaro IROC
Engine: 5.7 TPI
Transmission: 700-R4
Axle/Gears: open rear, 3.42 gears
Re: crate engine + supercharger?

seing as its pretty much 15% liquor....
nope, 15% gasoline, 85% ethanol
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
theshackle
Tech / General Engine
4
Mar 5, 2017 06:37 PM
toronto formula
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
15
Nov 10, 2015 06:17 AM
masonta
TPI
13
Aug 31, 2015 10:14 PM
ezobens
DIY PROM
8
Aug 19, 2015 10:29 PM
bradleydeanuhl
DFI and ECM
4
Aug 12, 2015 11:48 AM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:51 PM.