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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 07:56 PM
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lt1 heads and intake

i'm wondering if you can put lt1 heads and intake on an 87 tpi 305? just take the 305 heads and tpi off and stick the lt1 stuff on will i have any problems?
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 08:14 PM
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Re: lt1 heads and intake

http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/showthread.php?t=570520

lt1 heads are reverse flow cooled so you would need to modify the heads, waterpump or both

http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/...gen-1-sbc.html
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theres how one guy converted the heads and intake for sbc

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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 11:51 PM
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Re: lt1 heads and intake

being a 305 vs a 350 doesn't matter?
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 08:55 AM
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Re: lt1 heads and intake

As long as your valves dont hit the cyl walls you shouldnt have a problem

Tuning it for the extra flow and compression changes is your job
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 01:58 AM
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Re: lt1 heads and intake

the real question is why would you want to?
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 12:00 PM
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i'm getting it real cheap and all the specs are better than tpi...why wouldnt you want to?
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 01:41 PM
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Re: lt1 heads and intake

so what would you suggest is the best intake setup for a tpi then? the intake is my main concern
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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Re: lt1 heads and intake

On a 305? The stock TPI will be just fine. Your money is better spent on something else, like the machine work on a nice 350 block.
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 05:43 PM
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Re: lt1 heads and intake

the intake will be going on a built 355 with brodix aluminum heads with a mild-hot cam. the tpi really does not give me top end and i'm looking for a better solution
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by iroc-z_23
the intake will be going on a built 355 with brodix aluminum heads with a mild-hot cam.
Curious why you started off talking about "on an 87 tpi 305", then.
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 06:29 PM
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Re: lt1 heads and intake

because i have 2 camaro tpi's, and if i could just slap on some lt1 heads and intake on the 305 that would be good for me. but seeing that maybe thats not the way to go i have seen people swap the lt1 intakes and i could atleast use the intake for the 355 since i could get the lt1 intake cheap
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 06:31 PM
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Re: lt1 heads and intake

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Holley/Weiand Stealth Ram.
is there somewhere that shows some flow numbers on this intake?
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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Re: lt1 heads and intake

Originally Posted by iroc-z_23
i have seen people swap the lt1 intakes and i could atleast use the intake for the 355 since i could get the lt1 intake cheap
much more doable. still not a simple bolt on swap, but its manageable.

however the Stealth Ram will bolt right up AFAIK. never messed with one.
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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Re: lt1 heads and intake

which do you think is the way to go though...HSR or LT1?
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 10:35 PM
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Re: lt1 heads and intake

If you can find one get a stealth ram or mini ram since they're already setup for gen 1 SBC


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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 11:45 PM
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Re: lt1 heads and intake

Originally Posted by iroc-z_23
i could just slap on some lt1 heads and intake on the 305
Sure you could but one question ,
where is your water outlet to radiator going to be ?
LT1 intake has no water in it , no thermo housing either
You can't put a LT1 waterpump on a reg SBC

Originally Posted by iroc-z_23
i have seen people swap the lt1 intakes and i could atleast use the intake for the 355 since i could get the lt1 intake cheap
Cheap option if you can do the machine work required yourself ; if you have to pay to get it done ,a aftermarket intake is prob cheaper and no leaks

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Re: lt1 heads and intake

Originally Posted by iroc-z_23
is there somewhere that shows some flow numbers on this intake?
275 CFM out of the box
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 11:53 PM
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Re: lt1 heads and intake

Originally Posted by vetteoz
One question ,
where is your water outlet to radiator going to be ?
LT1 intake has no water in it , no thermo housing either
You can't put a LT1 waterpump on a reg SBC
have to use something like this and plumb lines to the front/back of the heads.
http://www.jegs.com/i/Weiand/925/7134/10002/-1
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Re: lt1 heads and intake

Originally Posted by TexasLT1
have to use something like this and plumb lines to the front/back of the heads.
http://www.jegs.com/i/Weiand/925/7134/10002/-1
I know how to do it ,
I just wondered if the OP did as he was just going to "slap on " some heads and intake
With the LT1 intake conversion most tap the intake to line up with the rear coolant ports and run from there
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 08:17 AM
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Re: lt1 heads and intake

A bit more than that actually

The 4 corner bolt holes are the reference but need to be reangled. The middle 8 are completely off and need to be filled/redrilled

The EGR mount much be cut of and the old passages closed by welding or JBweld. The intake gasket flange must have an extension added in the center near the head EGR ports or exhaust gasses will dump into the lifter valley

A hole must be accurately cut for the distributor and the floor built up and leveled for a proper seal

Most tap the rear crossover ports for the coolant lines because the fronts interfere with the TB cam. A remote T-stat housing must be used. It can be home made or the aftermarket unit posted above. I used 2 coolant lines for just the engine and one additional if you retain the heater core

TPI wiring will fit, the MAP, IAT and CTS wiring must be extended to reach, but the rest will fit fine. The TPI TB will bolt up and function well but for the best throttle cam motion use a LT1 TB. This requires updating the TPS and IAC connectors to the newer styles. 7 solders and thats done

A 93 throttle bracket must be used if you have a 700R4. It wont fit directly but a file will make your TPI cable fit. Older TPIs had shorter TV cables which wont reach the bracket. Use a 90-92 TV cable or go with the 93 piece

To clear the dist and AFPR must be used. Use anything that fits a LT1

Modify a set of stock quick disconnect lines to fit the fuel rail or buy fittings and build your own. PNs for fittings can be seen here. The diagram goes all the way to the tank, most just replace up to the frame rail in the engine bay
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/ltx-...formation.html

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