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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 09:08 PM
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need help..no spark and no fuel

i have a 91 camaro rs auto 305 tbi.
on xmas eve my car wouldn't start so i replaced the ign module. at the time it worked up until sunday. no i have no fuel and no spark what so ever. i went back to advance and got a replacement, still nothing. then i replaced the ign coil....and again still nothing. so i asked one of the mechanics at work. he said check ohms on the pick up coil. to see if it reads anything i got .720 ohms. i aslo have a spare distributor that i had with the car, that same pick up coil had .722 ohms.

then i put everything back together and still nothing. no fuel and no spark whats so ever.


thank god i got back my saab to get back and forth to school. can anyone please help me, i really want to sell it now so i can pay off my bill.
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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Re: need help..no spark and no fuel

well for the new fuel or spark that sends me a message saying no electric current do you have a new fuel pump that might possibly have a gauge on it or is everything stock cause if your not getting fuel or spark simply check voltage to the coil if your not getting any current you might have some problems.
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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Re: need help..no spark and no fuel

nope no gauge, everything on the car is basically stock. it did this to me before, but i got it started.
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 07:17 AM
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Re: need help..no spark and no fuel

well if its hei ignition it might be a simply wiring issue from the starter check connection at battery and starter see if they are good and heck clean em wont hurt nothing.
funny thing is. is that right now im having same problem only im getting fuel lol
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 12:02 PM
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Re: need help..no spark and no fuel

well, if the wires were bad i would have fuel. there has to be something that ties them both together. i dont think it could be the pcm or could it.
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 04:44 PM
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Re: need help..no spark and no fuel

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well, if the wires were bad i would have fuel. there has to be something that ties them both together. i dont think it could be the pcm or could it.
Pump primes with key on cycle?
Any codes?
Battery fully charged?
Fusible links good at the starter?
Is the Park/Neutral switch closed in these positions?

Because the injectors and coil connectors are readily accessible you can quickly eliminate them by:
Disconnect one injector and apply 12v to one of the 2 wires in the coil connector.
Momentarily (just a quick and light touch) grounding the other wire of the injector connector should give you a good squirt of fuel.

Disconnect coil and apply 12v to one of the 2 wires in the coil connector and connect the coil to distributor high voltage lead to a spare spark plug, or spark tester to ground. You should get a spark every time you momentarily make/break ground.

If these test are successfully your problem is in the wiring, power, or control devices.

Last edited by rgarcia63; Jan 1, 2010 at 05:47 PM.
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 08:25 PM
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Re: need help..no spark and no fuel

thank you ill hve to test some of this when i get time.
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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Re: need help..no spark and no fuel

Have you looked to make sure the wire that goes from the battery to the junction down by radiator is intact ? It sounds like a bad connection somewhere to me .
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 04:50 PM
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Re: need help..no spark and no fuel

this is pretty noobish but check your fuses
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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Re: need help..no spark and no fuel

Originally Posted by racerquinny
well, if the wires were bad i would have fuel. there has to be something that ties them both together. i dont think it could be the pcm or could it.
You won't have fuel without reference pulses from the distributor getting to the ECM.
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 09:34 PM
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Re: need help..no spark and no fuel

this is totally unrelated but your avatar of the engine running rapes lol
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 10:52 PM
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Re: need help..no spark and no fuel

yeah it does rape..haha. any who, im going to get one of the mechanics at work to help with the maro when he gets time. then its up for sale again.
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 11:50 PM
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Re: need help..no spark and no fuel

why do you want to sell it?
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 09:18 AM
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Re: need help..no spark and no fuel

sorry its off topic, but i need to pay for a car bill that almost $1500.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 01:04 PM
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Re: need help..no spark and no fuel

could it possibly be a crank sensor?????????????????????
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 01:14 PM
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Re: need help..no spark and no fuel

did you ever check on what i suggested ?
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 01:24 PM
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Re: need help..no spark and no fuel

Originally Posted by racerquinny
could it possibly be a crank sensor?????????????????????
There isn't a crank sensor. The closest thing is the pickup coil in the distributor.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 01:28 PM
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Re: need help..no spark and no fuel

damn teachers, i ohm tested the two pickup coil wires. i got .722. i dont know what i should be getting.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 05:12 PM
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Re: need help..no spark and no fuel

Check the fuse by the radiator support, it feeds the fuel pump and ecm, if it's blown you will get nothing, a tip off is if the ses light doesn't come on when you try to start it.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 09:11 PM
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Axle/Gears: stock :(
Re: need help..no spark and no fuel

i just checked the fusible links correct. the one was marked 14, and had a little hole in it. i think coolant got into it. but i was going to test for it, and i have no idea where my dad put the keys at.

how should i replace it, should i replace that one or all four of them i believe???
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 08:33 PM
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Re: need help..no spark and no fuel

update: i just asked the guy who i bought the car from. he said he had the same problem and replaced the distributor. could it be one, what could of went wrong on it to not make the car have no fuel no spark problem????
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