http://highflowfuel.com/i-4783227-hf...fuel-pump.html

Well I'm changing pump #3. This car seems to eat them. The stock was really loud many years ago so I changed to a Holley that lasted a year. Piece of Junk. That was in 1999. I switched that out to a Walbro Stock replacement. That failed today. It's 10 years old, but it had less then $50'000 Kilometers on it. You really find out how heavy this car is when you have to push it 1/2 a kilometer up a grade by yourself. Anyway just wanted to know if anyone has any thing to say about the above pump.

 

I have a fuel pump from them and have no problems with it. But I also only drive my car on the weekends so i cant say about long term reliability. Maybe only 2 or 3 thousand miles. Also quieter then any intank pump ive heard. Hope this helps....

 

You got 10 years from a pump and are complaining?

50 km or 50,000km, 10 years is FAR beyond the expected lifetime of a pump

Go back with the stock replacement unless you just want to upgrade. A word of caution on the cheap 255's like you linked: China is making Walbro knockoffs even with the Walbro logo stamped on there. These last hours to weeks before losing pressure and eventually dying. Go for the real thing or go home

 

I too thought the same way you did regarding garbage from China. But these days Made in the U.S.A is more a brand name than anything else. Allthough a pump is made there, the components inside are probably Chineese junk anyway.

 

Several car mfrs use walbros in new cars. The real pumps dont use cheap junk for their universal parts, its simply overseas knockoffs trying to cash in on the good name

 

My Holley in tank 255 LPH pump lasted a little over a year. That was an expensive pump. At any rate I'm going to try the cheaper pump. If it fails and I have to drop that tank a 5th time, then I'm opting for an external electric pump and mounting a Holley blue on the frame rail.

 

Putting a cheap, ebay pump in there is just asking for more headache. Pocket summed it up completely right. If you get a "REAL" Walbro pump it'll last a long, long time in most cases. I put a genuine Walbro in my car about 4 or 5 years ago, and it's still going strong. Any supposed "Walbro" pump you see that's priced cheaper than about $100 is almost guaranteed to be a damn Chinese copy. Go to racetronix.com. They sell true Walbros at a good price. Btw, I'm not surprised that your expensive Holley pump bit the dust either. They're probably about the same quality as the adjustable fuel pressure regulators they sell for our cars!

 

I'd expect a pump to last 4 to 5 years, as matter of fact they should last well past that. Mine dropped at under 50'000km's and it was an american made carter. Thats 30'000 miles for my American friends. I put it in in 2002 I think. I believe it's a crap shoot no matter what goes in there. The whole design is **** poor in my opinion. At least the Japanese were smart enough to put an access panel under the rear seats of there cars. I'd have to agree with you on Holley. Not the same quality that they used to be known for.

 

Oh believe me, I totally agree with you that the overall design sucks! It's a royal PITA to change the fuel pump in these cars. Btw, I've seen more dead Carter pumps over the years than I'd care to count! The only pumps I've had decent luck with is either the original AC Delco ones or a real Walbro. The last time I checked my local parts stores, the only pumps they had on hand were the Carters and some imported brand for like 50 bucks. They said they could order the original AC Deico pump for a small fortune. Since I was getting ready to drop in a high perfomance motor I just went online and bought a Walbro 255 for a little bit less than the price they quoted me to "special order" an original AC pump. Btw, thankfully I bought my Walbro before those Chinese turds decided to start ripping people off with those cheap imitations!

 

Its so hard to get quality today from anyone. I have an AWD Vibe that I have to change rear bearings on. They failed at 123'000 kms. thats disgusting. GM wants $405.00 each. Theres no way Im spending that kind of money on a product that does not last so I found a se of Timken bearings for considerably cheaper. I guess the point I'm trying to make is: It's all garbage today and I'm anticipating early failure on pretty much everything. So these days my decisions are based on planning to fail, and paying for just that, instead of paying three times as much and ending up at the same place. Guess I've become a Cynic, but I wasn't born that way. just fed up with all the offshore crap forcing North America to build the same crap to even hope to compete.

 

I thought the linked fuel pump above was made in the USA? I got one and it works beautifully, keeps pressure, and haven't had a single problem as I did my LT1 T56 swap with this pump. I was replacing the advance auto fuel pump I got last year (TBI unit) with this for my multiport LT1 and it was actually plug and play. Thought it looked pretty nice, and the fit and finish was excellent. Can't say anything but good about it so far. Hope this doesn't crap out on me too soon, lol.

 

Well thats two of you guys who gave it a thumbs up so hopefully I fall into the same boat. Right now it seems I change fuel pumps with my oil.

 

the factory original GM pump in my 5.7L TPI lasted 19 yrs, 250,000km as my daily driver. it died suddenly and with no warning. RIP.

 

Amen brother, it's depressing how just about every company that used to be reputable has been bought out by these foreign jackasses, so they're selling inferior junk under brand names that've been trusted for years. Motive gear and Hurst shifters are 2 of the latest brands I heard have gone overseas now. If you found Timken brand bearings at a good price you're ahead of the game there. Timken is hands down the best quality bearings you can buy for a rear axle. Those $405 bearings that GM is trying to rape you for are probably Koyo brand, which are made overseas, and not near as good as Timken. GM used to use Timken bearings, but I noticed the Koyos starting to show up in their axles in the 90's. They do the job, but the Timkens are the best. That's why the installation kits with all Timken bearings are usually about 30 bucks more than the Koyo kits. In reply to 84redta, I checked out the link at the top of the thread and that pump looks to be the real thing, and the company appears to be reputable. If so, that's a damn good price for one! I also agree with RPOL98 regarding the original fuel pumps. My original TBI pump was still working fine when I took it out around 225,000 miles. It had about 17 to 18 years of use on it. Of course the TBI motor's fuel demands are nothing compared to a multi-port TPI. I put in the Walbro 255 so I could convert my RS to a 5.7 TPI, otherwise I'd probably still be getting by on the original AC Delco pump!

 

First off, these pumps are not Walbro knockoffs. That’s like saying the Walbro F20000169 is a knock off of the original AC Delco pump. Our pumps us an impellar-type design, similar to a brand new OEM pump, and flow a considerable amount more than a walbro does (flowsheets below). Walbros use a gerator design with a gear inside that looks like an oil pump. That’s why they whine as loud as they do. Some people like the whine, others don’t. Do a Google search for walbro failure and you’ll come up with A LOT. We are also a walbro distributor and sell genuine walbro fuel pumps with genuine instalation kits. We offer our pumps as a cheaper, higher flowing alternative. We believe them to be two things; longer lasting and higher flowing. If anyone has access to a fuel pump flow testing machine (like RC Engineering’s) we will be glad to send you one of ours so you can verify the results. We sell a lot of these pumps on www.corral.net to the mustang guys and they all have great luck with them. Here is a link to our thread there so you can reference all the customer testimonials http://forums.corral.net/forums/show....php?t=1184359. I am not here to advertise, just defending our product. People are quick to judge and call it cheap/ knockoff/ etc when they are actually misinformed. If anyone would like any other technical data, please contact me through the link in the first post.

Thanks,

Matt
High Flow Performance

 

Hey Matt. Thanks for chiming in here on the message thread! I think it's great when a business comes on the boards and gives us reassurance that their product is the real deal. I wasn't doubting your pumps. Since you sell a lot of fuel pumps I'm sure you're well aware of all the foreign knockoff pumps that've been flooding the market here lately. We just like to make sure that our fellow members here on the site don't get conned into buying one of those inferior, imported pumps. They're such a PITA to change on our f-bodies it'd totally suck to have to do it twice! Point noted on the noise of a real Walbro pump too. I can definitely tell mine is a gerator type. It's way noisier than my original, impeller type pump. Of course with headers and no cat, the noise isn't all that noticeable. If my Walbro dies down the road here I'll definitely keep your pump in mind for a replacement. Thanks again for the info and the testimonial.