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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 05:15 PM
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I tried pulling the radiator out today. For whatever reason, it won't budge, even though I have everything disconnected. Are there any mounting bolts I may be missing? All I could see was the ones on the top that mount the rad support.

Another question: the flare fitting at the bottom of the radiator, which I guess is for tranny fluid, was seized. Vicegrips did no good, and the damn nut fused to the tranny line when I tried to apply heat to it, so I had to use a sawzall to cut the line off. Obviously I'll need a replacement: I doubt I have enough length to just slap on a fitting and call it a day. What size line/fitting do I need to get for this? I would know if the radiator decided to come out >

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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 05:25 PM
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Re: want to kill myself over the radiator

Originally Posted by Tonglebeak
I tried pulling the radiator out today. For whatever reason, it won't budge, even though I have everything disconnected. Are there any mounting bolts I may be missing? All I could see was the ones on the top that mount the rad support.

Another question: the flare fitting at the bottom of the radiator, which I guess is for tranny fluid, was seized. Vicegrips did no good, and the damn nut fused to the tranny line when I tried to apply heat to it, so I had to use a sawzall to cut the line off. Obviously I'll need a replacement: I doubt I have enough length to just slap on a fitting and call it a day. What size line/fitting do I need to get for this? I would know if the radiator decided to come out >

Thanks.
I did my radiator about a month ago - The 4 or so bolts at the top of the rad that bolt to the core support come out and there are 3 hose lines and 2 trans lines that go to it. It should just pull out.
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 05:40 PM
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Re: want to kill myself over the radiator

Sometimes the rubber isolators/pads at the bottom between the radiator end seams and the rad support kinda "glue" themselves on there. There is nothing at the bottom that holds it firmly in place. It's just "sandwiched" in place against the rad support by the upper cover/mount.
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 05:48 PM
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Re: want to kill myself over the radiator

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Sometimes the rubber isolators/pads at the bottom between the radiator end seams and the rad support kinda "glue" themselves on there. There is nothing at the bottom that holds it firmly in place. It's just "sandwiched" in place against the rad support by the upper cover/mount.
So if I find a place to stick my crowbar, I should be good?
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 06:30 PM
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Re: want to kill myself over the radiator

NO. There is no place on a radiator that will survive the force of a crowbar. You need to be a little more subtle than that!
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 06:36 PM
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Re: want to kill myself over the radiator

Originally Posted by Tonglebeak
I tried pulling the radiator out today. For whatever reason, it won't budge, even though I have everything disconnected. Are there any mounting bolts I may be missing? All I could see was the ones on the top that mount the rad support.

Another question: the flare fitting at the bottom of the radiator, which I guess is for tranny fluid, was seized. Vicegrips did no good, and the damn nut fused to the tranny line when I tried to apply heat to it, so I had to use a sawzall to cut the line off. Obviously I'll need a replacement: I doubt I have enough length to just slap on a fitting and call it a day. What size line/fitting do I need to get for this? I would know if the radiator decided to come out >

Thanks.
I had to cut my lower tranny line going to the rad too. It is a 5/16 steel line. It comes straight so you will have to shape it a little. I double flared the two ends and used transmission hose to connect it. A foot cost just over a dollar. I used about 3 inches of it. It's been only 4 days but it seems to hold well and no leaks. This hose is rated for high pressure and heat.
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 07:01 PM
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Re: want to kill myself over the radiator

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NO. There is no place on a radiator that will survive the force of a crowbar. You need to be a little more subtle than that!
Just read this post after I did the deed lol. I ended up hooking the upper hose port and was able to break the rad free.

I found a massive birds/rodents nest under it. Eww.

Also, are the rads supposed to be tilted, or are they supposed to stand straight up? My rad and my ac coolers are both tilted.

xX89RSXx, any special fitting? SAE or metric?

P.S. Kudos to rockauto for sending me a dirt-cheap all metal rad!
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 03:50 PM
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Re: want to kill myself over the radiator

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Just read this post after I did the deed lol. I ended up hooking the upper hose port and was able to break the rad free.

I found a massive birds/rodents nest under it. Eww.

Also, are the rads supposed to be tilted, or are they supposed to stand straight up? My rad and my ac coolers are both tilted.

xX89RSXx, any special fitting? SAE or metric?

P.S. Kudos to rockauto for sending me a dirt-cheap all metal rad!
Something like this...
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/web...%7CGRP2037____
I had to cut to size, bend, and double flared the end I cut and the piece going to the tranny. You can rent the flaring kit.
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