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Old 12-04-2010, 06:22 PM
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I am rebuilding my sbc and pulled an hei from a 78 chevy truck. It looks exactly the same as my stock one excpet for the vacumm cam. I would like to get rid of the comupter under the passenger side dash, so I need a non computer comtrolled hei. I already got a holley carb. Anyone know where I can buy one, got any pics so I can see what they look like. is the hei in the link non -computer controlled. heres the link: click here
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That is a non-computer-controlled HEI.
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can someone post pics of both a non-computer controlled hei, and computer controlled hei so I can see the difference thanks
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There are no external differences, aside from the vacuum advance can.
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Would I have to hook up the two wires from my car into the distributor, or can I just drop it in and the car will run? I think one wire is for the rpm tach and the other is for the computer
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Re: non computer controlled hei

Originally Posted by MikeSammy
can someone post pics of both a non-computer controlled hei, and computer controlled hei so I can see the difference
CC one has a large flat plug with 4 wires from the base as well as the 3 wire plug to HEI cap
Non CC only has the 3 wires to cap

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, or can I just drop it in and the car will run?
Of course you have to hook it up to something otherwise dist will have no power.
Wires connect exactly the same as on CC unit .Pink wire is power , white is Tacho
The computer connects on the 4 wire plug which you won't have with a non CC dist


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how does the vacuum advance can work. Do I hook it up to the carburetor
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how does the vacuum advance can work.
The vac can changes the dist advance as engine load changes because engine vac changes in relation to load
Low load ( cruise / idle ) = hi vac ; lots of advance.
Hi load (WOT )= low vac ; so less advance

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Do I hook it up to the carburetor
There is a port on the carb for the vac line to dist
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Can I hook this up to any vacuum port on the carb or is there a specific one?
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Can I hook this up to any vacuum port on the carb or is there a specific one?
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Re: non computer controlled hei

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Can I hook this up to any vacuum port on the carb or is there a specific one?
Distributor vacuum should be taken from from the intake itself.
My '86 Silverado 305 takes it from a T-port on the manifold directly behind the Brake booster vacuum connection.

If you have to get it from the carburetor be sure the port is below the throttle plates.
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Distributor vacuum should be taken from from the intake itself.
No difference taking it from a full-time vacuum port on the carb, or from the manifold.

Ported vacuum is fine, but cars with larger cams will idle better with full-time.
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Re: non computer controlled hei

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No difference taking it from a full-time vacuum port on the carb, or from the manifold.

Ported vacuum is fine, but cars with larger cams will idle better with full-time.
My understanding of ported vs manifold vacuum is that ported vacuum increases as manifold vacuum decreases this is why ported vacuum is used for EGR control, manifold vacuum is weak at the rpm required for EGR, which is opposite of how the distributor works.
Having said that, I only stated it for emissions/economy purposes.
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Re: non computer controlled hei

That's a common misconception, but they don't work like that. Ported vacuum is drawn from a port above the throttle blades, so there'a no vacuum on it until the throttle is opened past that point. After that, it behaves the same as manifold vacuum.
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