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FLAT TAPPET TO ROLLER ???

Old Apr 15, 2011 | 11:38 PM
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FLAT TAPPET TO ROLLER ???

O.K. , to all you engine GURUS's . i was in a discussion about GMPP crate eng. #19210007 . it has a flat tappet cam shaft .435int./.460ex. lift , 212int/222ex duration . question is can one just swap swap to roller lifters by just swapping lifters ? we realize not stock factory lifters . but can/should it be done ??? thanks ...
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Old Apr 16, 2011 | 05:10 AM
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Re: FLAT TAPPET TO ROLLER ???

If the block was not designed to use a roller cam then you need those retro roller lifters and the lock plate to hold the cam back.
Those lifter sets alone run from $289 for Howard ones to $400 ish for Comp cams ones, plus the cams run $100+ more on average. Your looking at $500 at least for new parts.

I was hoping once I pulled the motor for rebuild in a couple of years, since its a 87 with a flat tappet cam in it, it was designed for a roller cam, just not finish machined.
I can ebay all the stuff needed including a used cam for less than $200. $300 extra to me for a minor gain IMO is pushing it cost effective wise.
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Old Apr 16, 2011 | 07:51 AM
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Re: FLAT TAPPET TO ROLLER ???

Originally Posted by UNCLE TOM
O.K. , to all you engine GURUS's . i was in a discussion about GMPP crate eng. #19210007 . it has a flat tappet cam shaft .435int./.460ex. lift , 212int/222ex duration . question is can one just swap swap to roller lifters by just swapping lifters ? we realize not stock factory lifters . but can/should it be done ??? thanks ...
No... You need to swap cam and lifters. Would be worth it though. Roller cams are superior IMO.
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Old Apr 16, 2011 | 08:29 PM
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Re: FLAT TAPPET TO ROLLER ???

Tom, does this block have the bosses for the spider bracket that holds the roller lifter dog bones in position?
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Old Apr 16, 2011 | 09:55 PM
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Re: FLAT TAPPET TO ROLLER ???

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Tom, does this block have the bosses for the spider bracket that holds the roller lifter dog bones in position?

i really don't know , it's a GMPP crate eng. that i'm considering . it's in the latest JEGS book page 21-s top center . also in GMPP parts catalog for this year . i think it may but not sure . thanks . ( next time you come down to the coast check in with Gulf Coast 3rd Gens )
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Old Apr 17, 2011 | 07:35 PM
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Re: FLAT TAPPET TO ROLLER ???

Originally Posted by UNCLE TOM
i really don't know , it's a GMPP crate eng. that i'm considering . it's in the latest JEGS book page 21-s top center . also in GMPP parts catalog for this year . i think it may but not sure . thanks . ( next time you come down to the coast check in with Gulf Coast 3rd Gens )
I will check in, I hope to have mine painted within a couple of months. I got moving finally. LOL runs like a scalded dog.
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Old Apr 17, 2011 | 08:36 PM
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Re: FLAT TAPPET TO ROLLER ???

i find it hard to believe that no one knows much about this engine . oh well , i'll keep searching . thanks for the replies .
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Old Apr 17, 2011 | 10:33 PM
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Re: FLAT TAPPET TO ROLLER ???

im not to keen on this, but if it does have the bosses for the spider and its not tapped yet, does that mean i could tap it and use a roller cam?
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