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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 03:03 PM
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curios on aproximate HP

So I'm getting deployed. In feb and amd putting my z28 together quick. I did some research on similiear setups to mine and can't find a close hp rating. Granted I knnow it won't be spot on but just ballpark figures lol

I have a 358 (.060 over 350) with -16cc dished speed pro pistons about 9.7:1 comp ratio 64cc procomp aluminum heads with 195cc intake runners 2.02 intake valves. Lunati bracket master 2 cam 458 lift intake and exhaust. Running 1.5 rollers up top. Brodix sp1 single plane intake holley 650dp edelbrock 1 3/4 short headers
Like I said id just be happy with ballpark figures. It seems to have all kinds of bottom end and its decently snappy (needs more tuning yet) its mated to a th350 not that it makes much diff on hp. Lol
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 05:06 AM
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Re: curios on aproximate HP

370ish? the combo is a little mismatched might be why your not finding a lot of info, zero decked and running a .015 shim head gasket on that?

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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 06:39 AM
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Re: curios on aproximate HP

Yeah its 0 decked and I'm pretty sure its .015 head gasket. I didn't really want the intake on it but its the only one I could come up with at the time. I knew it was mismatched. I just was sure on how baldy it was. What would you change but that's close to what I was thinking on power. Thank you
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 07:36 AM
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Re: curios on aproximate HP

It could really benefit from a cam change to take advantage of the heads. From the numbers I've seen they flow well from .400 up. The cam that's in there is similar in specs to the Gm 290hp 8.5 comp crate to put it in perspective. With that big plenum it's probably lazy down low compared to what it could be with a rpm intake, and some 1.6 rockers would get some more lift out of what you have
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 08:05 AM
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Re: curios on aproximate HP

So you thinkjust doing that could do a lot of the motor? What intake would you reccomend? It seems to run surprisingly good now but I haven't had it the strip or anything yet. And it doesn't rev too bad. Not super fast but not bad

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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 09:35 AM
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Re: curios on aproximate HP

.060 over is a 360" motor

Cam is alittle dated, there are better choices. Could use more compression too. I'd run a normal .039-.040 gasket if that block is zero decked even tho that will drop compression... your running extremely tight quench height. Not a concern for PTV clearance with a low lift cam like that, but its recommended to keep your piston to head clearance at .040" or so.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 09:46 AM
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Re: curios on aproximate HP

i was trying to keep it decently low comp so that i wouldnt have to run 93. if i go much more cam id have to go more compression too. like i said in leaving in feb for a year id like to have a mild motor to drive before winter. i want to build bigger when i get back. main thing i think that needs changed is intake. ill def be changing head gaskets when i redo the motor tho. and probably run flat tops. thank you
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 11:00 AM
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Re: curios on aproximate HP

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.060 over is a 360" motor

Cam is alittle dated, there are better choices. Could use more compression too. I'd run a normal .039-.040 gasket if that block is zero decked even tho that will drop compression... your running extremely tight quench height. Not a concern for PTV clearance with a low lift cam like that, but its recommended to keep your piston to head clearance at .040" or so.
I couldn't understand how, with the big dish, 9.7 was possible till i ran some numbers,
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 12:41 PM
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Re: curios on aproximate HP

yeah the thinner gasket makes it possible but thats very very thin. With lower compression, and that cam, a dual plane intake like performer RPM may be better suited. Its got a lazy lobe on it, 284 advertised, but only 218 deg at .050" lift. Doesnt have the capability of pulling the rpm needed for a single plane. So change the intake if you are not going to change the cam.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 07:25 PM
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Re: curios on aproximate HP

Alright ill look for a better suited intake I really appriciate it guys
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 09:32 PM
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Re: curios on aproximate HP

Could use a more modern cam like the voodoo series from lunati or extreme energy grinds from Comp. Get the lift up abit more and it will wake up. The more aggressive lobes will fill the cylinder better in the mid range, giving you more torque/power and much better overall driveability
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Old Oct 6, 2011 | 09:25 AM
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Re: curios on aproximate HP

If I put a good dual plane on it and maybe 1.6 rockers do you think it would run a good bit better? I don't have a whole lot of money but have some friends who have parts I could get cheap
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Old Oct 6, 2011 | 09:39 AM
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Re: curios on aproximate HP

Yeah I think it would fit alot better with more lift and dual plane intake like performer RPM. Probably sell of the old manifold and have minimal investment in the other dual plane.
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Old Oct 6, 2011 | 10:29 AM
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Re: curios on aproximate HP

275 rwhp
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Old Oct 8, 2011 | 04:09 PM
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Re: curios on aproximate HP

What about a weiand stelth? I have heard good things about them and they are decent on price. Plus it kicks in at the same rpm as the cam
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