GreenCamaro13

ok so one of my firends has a ford cavalier, really modded out and i guess it has turbo.. he wants to race me and my camaro is a stock v6 3.1.. not meant for racing stock, more like taking a cruise down vegas boulvard lol. i asked him what his 0-60 times where and he said he can go from 0-60 in 3 secs with turbo on, this sounds like complete BS.. is this real for a calvalier??

Sojer

Yes ford didnt make caviler's and yes u will loose if he just put 94 gas in he will pull on ya

sofakingdom

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It is raw unvarnished monkey-spank.

In this day and time, a "really modded out" chick commuter econobox like a Cavalier, could mean almost ANYTHING... could mean nothing but a cheeeep sheet-metal "wing" and a fart pipe, could mean a water-intercooled turbo, could mean a 200 HP shot of nitrous, could mean a loud stereo, could mean wheels that don't fit, could mean the springs are cut, .... most of those won't affect 0 - 60 times a whole lot. Although if he talks about "turbo on", you can be reasonably assured he has nothing of the kind (or nozzzz either), but rather, some of those juvenile things that small children do to their big sister's hand-me-down college beater.

However, a STOCK Cavalier (which is a GM product BTW, under the Chevy nameplate) will hand you your butt on a silver platter in bone stock condition; not because it's "fast", but because .... you do the math. Basically, with what you have now, you don't have any business "racing" much of anything. Best to keep your head out of the clouds and your feet planted firmly on the ground.

86LG4Bird

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lol!
Very entertaining and oh so true
Sofa, what are you again? A mechanic turned literary enthusiast? or an English Lit major turned mechanic?

Blue1990camaro

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yea ull probably loose, i have an 2000 Chevy Cavalier Z24, LD9 2.4L DOHC, bored .0020, ported head, stage 2 clutch, headers and magnaflow exhuast, rest is stock and i can run a 13.9-14.1 all day long on good tires and high octane gas depending on if i get it to launch good,

i hate fwd 4 cyls but for a DD its quick

fasteddi

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Sorry man but youl loose. I got spanked many times on the track aginst stock cavaliers, impalas'...V6 rangers... Its a shame and imbarassing!!!

That was my motivation on turboing my car!!! But anyways 3 seconds 0-60 in a cavalier is very doubtful, and on any streetable FWD car. People bullcrap sometimes and exagerate what there car really is capible of. But anways you lucky to pull out a 10 second 0-60 at the race track so if you really wana to go faster look into n20 or a home made turbo project. Thats the way to turn heads and get into the sportscar zone. Basically look at your 0-60 time and cut it in half if you turbo your car right. I went from the 10seconds stock to 6 seconds flat with a crappy tune.

DENN_SHAH

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maybe he wasn't talking about 0-60 MPH, but that 3.0 seconds is his 60' times

fasteddi

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Yea that would make more sence, but 3 seconds is slow.. His camaro will do that or less at the track if he can launch good.

lolvtec

i say race him if you lose you lose but its hard to lose if the car your racing is made up
by turbo on does he mean one of the ebay elct blowers?
sounds like a ***** to me
post pics lolwe need a ***** spotted page
what? i cant say rice r? lol

GreenCamaro13

let me upload a pic of his car and engine and see what you guys think

GreenCamaro13

here it is

ironreaper87

Parking for Nasty Habitz Crew...


Yeah I will stick with any camaro slow or not before I join a club named something like that.

fasteddi

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I dont like fart makers(imports)

All show no go car...the amount of $$ He put into the hood and rims, is way more $ then it took me to turbo my car...some peoples priorities...

GreenCamaro13

thats what i say!! lol id rather have a good painjob and dump some good turbos or even a supercharger, because he spent around 8000 on it, it has subs inside that throw 2000W each.. lol man if i had that money my car would be a ls1 by now lol

fasteddi

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If I had that much cash my V6 would be running 11's in the 1/4 mile by now... And have a raw fresh paint job.

Sojer

The fact someone turns a 4 banger gg to a car that will spank a ls3 camaro is alsome. Going fast is going fast but what I wouldn't buy is a v6 fbody turbo or not at least he got the big 2.2

fasteddi

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A motors a motor, and a some ppl just have to make what they have fast. It was a ton easier to put a turbo set up on a V6 car then swap out motors, and a ton cheeper(In my own experience). In this day in age when a 2012 V6 camaro makes more then 300Hp stock, A V8 isnt the only option anymore in my mind. Theres alot of ppl that are running 13's and 12's in there V6 third gen f-bodys.. Those motors can take a beating! But every person has their own posion

GreenCamaro13

i gotta say, my poison is probly on the lines of swapping my v6 or buying a v8 and just working on it.. buuuutttt i also like how you moddified you car -fasteddi- so idk whitch lol im still thinking. ok but here is a finding of mine. a suburban outside my house has a carbd engine. was told it will go good in my camaro. i think its a 305. not sure though. how do i check. maybe it will have a 350 if im lucky lol

fasteddi

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Yea everyones got the taste in cars, i just like that I will be the only guy at the track with a turboed V6 camaro, even though its not the typical camaro, I like that its something different and it was a challange. V8's are easy to make fast, I had a 5.0 mustang back in the day and it was so easy to make it from a 15 flat car in the 1/4 to a 13 second car. So i love the challange to accomplish what im aiming at in my V6 camaro.

Look at the vin # on the truck. Copy it down and let me know what it is. What year suburban....Be nice if it was newer engine...LSX

GreenCamaro13

well the engine is a new engine not the one it had to start. let me go take pictured. its a umm 87 suburban i think?? not sure but a old school one for sure lol

tylercamaro

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looks like it has some neon influene in that hood

GreenCamaro13

yup, he also has a neon underkit and in the front of the bumper. to be honest it looks good at night.

tylercamaro

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it looks horrible that front bumper has more lip on it than my truck winch bumper of his lifted chevy

GreenCamaro13

haha, well i cant complain about it because even though its pretty wide, still matches the rest of the car. he riced it up pretty bad tho,, inside is nicer then outside.

lolvtec

what the eff is that i thought my old drift car was bad lol ill post a pic of my 240/300/skyline lol

not bad for 500 bucks lol it got a ton of looks

obeymybird

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thought the cavy had a turbo?

GreenCamaro13

it does now, that is a "before" pic. i couldnt find any more recent pics

fasteddi

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He probly does mean 0-60mph times, but is exaggerating on the time, becasue I call B.S. There a slim chance that, that car does 0-60 in 3 seconds, unless he has some major, and I mean MAJOR suspention mods on a FWD car like that and a ton of HP to boot. Jezz man, im looking at 5-6 second 0-60 times on my car and I bet im laying down 200Hp to the ground and that would only be possible at a preped drag strip and mines a automatic, and its RWD.

Im pretty sure that if hes got a turbo, hes not making 0-60 times like that unless he has a really small turbo(spools up faster) or some n20 to get that turbo up and moving really fast. But all of that doent mean much, since we cant see his car in person. Im just thinking out loud here so dont take what I say to seriously.

m16a2r

cavalier thats running 0-60 in 3 sec LOL!!! yeah maybe after he puts 100k into it

Thirdgen89GTA

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0-60mph in 3 seconds with a FWD car on any kind of street tires is simply impossible at this point in time.

If his 60' is 3 seconds, then that is slow and he's probably in the 16 second 1/4 mile range at best.

That care is pure rice. They CAN be made fast, the Ecotec is a great motor. I have seen at least a dozen builds on the net looking for 10's, and I've seen one fore sure run 10's and another 11's with a single turbo.

Yes, the F-body wins in that video, and it was a terrible run for him. That car's best is 9's so far @ 158mph. The Cavy still runs 12.7 @ 112mph. Which is fast enough to be respectable. BTW, thats not me narrating.

DeathStarr89

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Google provided more info on said Cavalier;

here is his cardomain; http://www.cardomain.com/ride/392480...er-ls-sedan-4d

2001 4 door Cavalier LS auto had the 2.2 4cyl (Not the ecotec, that started in 2002), 120HP.. 0-60 stock is probably 10 seconds, it would run the 1/4 in about 17sec or so. With all the added weight it's probably an 18 sec car.


but, will it beat a stock 3.1 Camaro? probably a pretty even race.

m16a2r

According to the video of the op from the other thread his camaro does 0 to 60 in 20 seconds so ***** is still gonna win

Thirdgen89GTA

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The only factory thirdgen to run that slow is the iron duke f-bodies.

A 3.1L V6 F-body should reach the 1/4 mile in about 17.x seconds @ ~83mph. Maybe 20 seconds with a 25yr old F-body in poor running condition.

fasteddi

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My 3.1L auto ran constant 17.3'-17.4's@ 80.XXMph stock. And the 1/8 mile was 10.90's @ 63Mph. So a V6 in "good" running condtion will run those numbers or close to it, depending on your relitive elevation. And i got about 200 times slips to prove it.

Somethings just not right on his camaro to be running 15-20 second 0-60Mph times. Im curoius to see what hes shifting at....I dont have a manual, but in his videos hes shifting into 3rd at about 38Mph????

skinny z

Ahhhh. The indignities we must suffer because we can spell and use punctuation.

86LG4Bird

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awww.....Don't tell me Sofa's Canadian too ??!
I should have known; there's seemingly nobody left down here that can write a coherent sentence!

Thirdgen89GTA

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I have the BS Calculator Formula for that. It has formula's for estimating Trap Speed and ET with Race Weight and Flywheel HP as variables.

I also have a formula that does the reverse and gives a ballpark HP number for a known race weight and trap speed.

skinny z

I can't speak for sofa and where he might be from although I will say that I enjoy reading his posts (and yours for that matter).
Don't be too concerned about the literacy situation. There are plenty here in the Great White North and can't speel worth a damn either.

fasteddi

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I know the caclulator your talking about. They help alot when your modding cars woundering what the Hp could be when you make a pass.

Im sure ill be using one(to guess wheel Hp) in a few weeks if I can make it to the track. April 14th.. I cant wait.

Thirdgen89GTA

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Yep, i've put those into an Excel Sheet. I add tools/formula's to it from time to time like Engine Speed vs Wheel Speed for gearing charts and such as well.

Sometimes its just nice to have that at your fingertips for quick reference.

GreenCamaro13

ok, here i am again lol, im shifting at a constant 4500 rpms when racing, but as said, 1st and 2nd gear arent getting as good as they sould and im pretty sutre its because engine oil is reaching clutch and messing my shitfts up but am taking to shop so they can check for sure.

tylercamaro

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good luck with the shop

fasteddi

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Good luck man, but when you really race the car and want to go faster dont be afraid to rev it higher. That 60* motor will rev out nicely. Stock forged stuff in there so your fine. A shift at 5250rpms or so will help for the pull when you shift. No sence in shifting much higher then 5400 or so as these iron heads are crap! So you real power is gonna be felt in the 3k-5k Rpms, unless you do some modding to it.

shortyskater

Nasty Habitz....??? Thatas awful. Least he has a checklist going of all the parts on his car. Each stickers what, 5 HP??

fasteddi

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Some stickers are worth 10Hp!!!

GreenCamaro13

well that fake hood counts for a good 35 HP, the paintjob is a easy 5 HP, dont underestimate it, dont get me started on the tranny holder lol

Brando5641

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Why are we having this conversation???

GreenCamaro13

i got no clue lol, back on track. going to meet up with him on a sunny day and taking are cars on some runs.. my car wont let me down. i knoow

fasteddi

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Dont forget to shift that puppy at a little higher RPMs bro.....5250rpms or so.