low end torque
low end torque
I have a 1990 RS. It has a 305HO block, vortec heads, what looks to be a standard intake with a quadrajet 4bbl carb. headman long tube headers and flowmasters and msd ignition with vacuum advance joined to a bw 5 speed transmission.... my low end torque seems to be absent.... what do I check or do.... I just bought the car and the papers and reciepts for the parts and labor where in the console...
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Car: 1988 IROC-Z Camaro, 1981 Trans Am
Engine: 350 TPI, 301 N/A
Transmission: 700r4, 350thm
Re: low end torque
I have a 1990 RS. It has a 305HO block, vortec heads, what looks to be a standard intake with a quadrajet 4bbl carb. headman long tube headers and flowmasters and msd ignition with vacuum advance joined to a bw 5 speed transmission.... my low end torque seems to be absent.... what do I check or do.... I just bought the car and the papers and reciepts for the parts and labor where in the console...
jk lol I would start of course by upgrading the intake, and then either tuning or replacing the carb. It sounds like you have a decent setup, so you should have SOME power behind it.. I know that stock intake and carb are holding you back though.Id also check and make sure everything is in good shape and proper tune, a 350hp engine will feel weak if its not running right. Make sure your spark plugs are in good shape, make sure your getting good spark, check filters, ect. ect.
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Re: low end torque
Not that I have any experience with it, but doesn't the stock cc qjet require the computer and cc dist (non vac) to work correctly as a whole system?
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Re: low end torque
It is possible, conditionally, but it is not requisite. Here's the deal: Platinum plugs get hot and stay hot. If this causes pre-ignition, then the computer pulls timing, thinking the knock sensor is reading detonation. Platinum plugs are not for engines originally equipped with copper-core plugs AND with knock sensors. However, platinums in Vortecs is not inherently problematic.
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Re: low end torque
Well, it is a 305 carbed...
jk lol I would start of course by upgrading the intake, and then either tuning or replacing the carb. It sounds like you have a decent setup, so you should have SOME power behind it.. I know that stock intake and carb are holding you back though.
Id also check and make sure everything is in good shape and proper tune, a 350hp engine will feel weak if its not running right. Make sure your spark plugs are in good shape, make sure your getting good spark, check filters, ect. ect.
jk lol I would start of course by upgrading the intake, and then either tuning or replacing the carb. It sounds like you have a decent setup, so you should have SOME power behind it.. I know that stock intake and carb are holding you back though.Id also check and make sure everything is in good shape and proper tune, a 350hp engine will feel weak if its not running right. Make sure your spark plugs are in good shape, make sure your getting good spark, check filters, ect. ect.
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Car: 1988 IROC-Z Camaro, 1981 Trans Am
Engine: 350 TPI, 301 N/A
Transmission: 700r4, 350thm
Re: low end torque
I just switched to platinum plugs, and pretty much every "gear-head" i know runs them, and ive never heard any compliants on loss of torque. I have a few friends with camaros (3rd gens even) and they said its only helped, no loss of torque.
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Re: low end torque
This is true, I hadent even noticed this. If you are running the stock carb with a non computer controlled distributor, your car will run in "limp mode". It runs much weaker and less efficient because the computer is looking for imput from the distributor but insnt getting any. you have to do either all CC or no CC.
I just switched to platinum plugs, and pretty much every "gear-head" i know runs them, and ive never heard any compliants on loss of torque. I have a few friends with camaros (3rd gens even) and they said its only helped, no loss of torque.
I just switched to platinum plugs, and pretty much every "gear-head" i know runs them, and ive never heard any compliants on loss of torque. I have a few friends with camaros (3rd gens even) and they said its only helped, no loss of torque.
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Car: 1988 IROC-Z Camaro, 1981 Trans Am
Engine: 350 TPI, 301 N/A
Transmission: 700r4, 350thm
Re: low end torque
Guys, it's a '90, there was no carb offered. If it's a CC dizzy with any carb, then it could be in Limp-Home mode, but then there'd be no upper-RPM power, either. So assume non-cc dizzy. Running a CC QJ on a non-CC engine isn't great, but it is driveable, if you can afford the gas. I had to do it once, so I know.
As of now im thinking its either mis-matched cc and non-cc, or a tuning problem. The compression issue is also very possible. Itd help greatly if we knew more
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Engine: 350 TPI, 301 N/A
Transmission: 700r4, 350thm
Re: low end torque
It is possible, conditionally, but it is not requisite. Here's the deal: Platinum plugs get hot and stay hot. If this causes pre-ignition, then the computer pulls timing, thinking the knock sensor is reading detonation. Platinum plugs are not for engines originally equipped with copper-core plugs AND with knock sensors. However, platinums in Vortecs is not inherently problematic.
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Engine: 350 TPI
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Re: low end torque
305s aren't big on torque to start with & you put long tube headers which only pushed the power band up even higher, killing off torque.
So you ha 2 strikes against building torque to start with, even though you have Vortech heads which will help to keep some. If you had 3rd gen 305 heads it would be even worse. Are they 305 Vortech or 350 Vortech heads?
So you ha 2 strikes against building torque to start with, even though you have Vortech heads which will help to keep some. If you had 3rd gen 305 heads it would be even worse. Are they 305 Vortech or 350 Vortech heads?
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