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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 07:31 AM
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Possible overheat? Diseling on?

Started driving my car it runs pretty well.. I think I may still have to tune the carb a bit...

On to my question, I don't know if its overheating (none of my gauges work yet) but I could of sworn I smelled some coolant burning... Now my brother in law told me it could be some stuff I spilled in there because I did just start driving my car.... Last night when I was driving home in the rain I realized my hood was steaming when the rain hit it : ) Idk if thats normal for older cars with pure metal hoods or not..

My thermostat is at 180 degrees.. so I know it gets pretty hot in there.. I took out the heater core and bypassed it, I was wandering if having to much coolant could be a bad thing?

And the dieseling on I turn the key off and it does it maybe for a half second not even but its annoying and that half second feels like forever. A friend at work said that one of my cylinders may be overheating and still burning fuel when I stop...

So Im thinking its something with my timing because I just put a new distributor in and I thought I had it all timed right but I guess not, I also swapped it out for a carb which needs tuned..

Could a carb cause it to overheat if it is overheating? I mean I drive it from my house to work... about a 15 minute drive (not including the redlights) and it hasn't exploded yet lol..
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 09:19 AM
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Re: Possible overheat? Diseling on?

My car did this and the timing was far to advanced. Try bringing it down a little and see what happens. Also this is just me, but I wouldn't drive my car to much without properly working gauges. I'd at least get a cheap mechanical gauge from the parts store to watch the temp.
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 11:49 AM
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Re: Possible overheat? Diseling on?

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My car did this and the timing was far to advanced. Try bringing it down a little and see what happens. Also this is just me, but I wouldn't drive my car to much without properly working gauges. I'd at least get a cheap mechanical gauge from the parts store to watch the temp.
Yeah thats what my brother in law keeps saying.. I guess ill go get some cheapy ones till I can afford the good ones I want, makes sense..But I still need to drive it..

I think I fixed the problem? I put some more coolant in it and change the oil to a thicker wait.. It seems to be running awesome now.. I think I had 5 30 in before switched it to a 10 30 and put some stp oil treatment in and bought a K&N oil filter... runs fine now : ) Except for the dieseling on.. I can just turn my distributor cap to the left and right for a simple fix cant I? Which way to advance or decrease? Thanks for the help.
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 08:33 PM
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Re: Possible overheat? Diseling on?

Clockwise to retard timing, may need to run higher octane fuel too if that doesnt work.

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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 09:22 PM
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Re: Possible overheat? Diseling on?

For the running on, throttle blades might be cracked open a bit too far at idle - what's the idle speed - over 800 in park?

For the overheating - is it actually boiling? Or u just paranoid
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 06:39 PM
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Re: Possible overheat? Diseling on?

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For the running on, throttle blades might be cracked open a bit too far at idle - what's the idle speed - over 800 in park?

For the overheating - is it actually boiling? Or u just paranoid

I was paranoid I bought a gauge today and it stays between 190-210 lol.. It may be the throttle blades.. but it also may be my ignition switch.. because I took it to advanced and the guy there watched me turn it off and said it sounds more like a delay in the switch..


And it was way out of time.. but I timed it and no more missing so that is good I need to un retard the timing a little bit because now it feels like I drag on forever... I think it needs to be at 6 degrees.. because my engine is from a vin F car.. and thats what it calls for. But my vin is E..
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 09:07 PM
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Re: Possible overheat? Diseling on?

A 'delay in the switch' sounds bollocky to me, that's the sort of bs guys make up when they've got no idea. Run-on will usually be throttle, timing, possibly idle mix, or hot carbon deposits. Most likely one of the first two or three - ie should go away with correct tuning.

Forget that 6 degrees stuff and that vin stuff, that's the factory recommended base setting for tpi. You've lost the tpi and now have a Holley and mech/vac advance dist - different ball game now - give it the timing it wants to run best. Should probably be in the 12-16 degrees range for base timing.
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 09:38 AM
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Re: Possible overheat? Diseling on?

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A 'delay in the switch' sounds bollocky to me, that's the sort of bs guys make up when they've got no idea. Run-on will usually be throttle, timing, possibly idle mix, or hot carbon deposits. Most likely one of the first two or three - ie should go away with correct tuning.

Forget that 6 degrees stuff and that vin stuff, that's the factory recommended base setting for tpi. You've lost the tpi and now have a Holley and mech/vac advance dist - different ball game now - give it the timing it wants to run best. Should probably be in the 12-16 degrees range for base timing.
Should it be before or after?
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 12:47 PM
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Re: Possible overheat? Diseling on?

Timing? Before tdc of course, won't run too good after
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