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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 10:48 PM
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Re: Still cant get l98 motor started? Please help

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There's your problem
Lol which part the tps, or those 3 wires?
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 10:52 PM
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Re: Still cant get l98 motor started? Please help

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Alright i just checked those 3 ports in ecm harness and the test light didnt light for any of them, and i scraped back some wire on all three then touched the bare wire with test light, and it didnt light, with ignition on.
Also i tested the injectors with my meter and it read 12.50volts, and my test light still works aswell.

You just stated your ecm is not powered
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 10:57 PM
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Re: Still cant get l98 motor started? Please help

Ok so how can i power it? Also i thought the ecm doesnt take over untill like 300rpms, either way how to i get it powered?
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 11:04 PM
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Re: Still cant get l98 motor started? Please help

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Ok so how can i power it? Also i thought the ecm doesnt take over untill like 300rpms, either way how to i get it powered?
Take your time and trace all the power wires from the ECM to where ever they are hooked up or not hooked up.
(my guess is, the power wires from the ECM go to the starter switch on the steering column or the factory fuse box)
Then hook the ECM power wires up properly and fix all your scraped back wires..

You can then ditch the hotwired inj harness you just wasted 3 days messing with, because you didn't want to test things you were told to.

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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 11:10 PM
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Re: Still cant get l98 motor started? Please help

What do you mean trace the wires back lol? Would you like a picture of the wires, but if you can tell me the colors i need to look for coming from the ecm, ill spend the next hour or two tracing them through the wire maze

Also if you could where they are supposed to be hooked up to since the wires that go to motor have a plastic tube thing thats hard and not to see through lol.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 11:18 PM
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Re: Still cant get l98 motor started? Please help

Uh,you know, The power wires on the ECM you said you just tested that don't have key on power, remember??
Trace those to see where they go.
The other end of them should be hooked to key on power.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 11:20 PM
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Re: Still cant get l98 motor started? Please help

so basicaly those three pins you told me to check ar ethe ones i need to trace back i guess rite since they are the power wires. Also what about the ground wires because they all three shouldnt be disconnected or do they all lose power if just one does? Sorry just trying to make since of my next 2hrs here in awhile
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 11:22 PM
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Re: Still cant get l98 motor started? Please help

Oh i was typing at the same time my bad. So they can be disconnected/connected anywhere? Because cant i power them like the fuses?
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 11:24 PM
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Re: Still cant get l98 motor started? Please help

Yes. And about the ground wires, don't even talk about anything else until you find the end of those power wires or what they are tied into.

Those fuses you put in are a bandaid. They will be unhooked/removed when you find the answer to where these wires go.

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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 11:27 PM
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Re: Still cant get l98 motor started? Please help

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Yes. And about the ground wires, don't even talk about anything else until you find the end of those wires or what they are tied into.

Those fuses you put in are a bandaid. They will be unhooked/removed when you find the answer to where these wires go.
Ok so i can go wire them up to a 12 volt source like the injectors are, or was that a yes to something else. Im just asking just incase i cant find those 3 wires.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 11:32 PM
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Re: Still cant get l98 motor started? Please help

You will find those wires and where they go.
Again, do not worry about anything else.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 11:36 PM
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Re: Still cant get l98 motor started? Please help

Ok so im back, because i tried following it and it was impossible once it got in the wire loom plastic thing, and im not just saying that. I have to know where they are connected to be able to locate them, so do you know where i have to look because if you dont believe me ill go take a picture and show you just to prove it to you.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 11:42 PM
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Re: Still cant get l98 motor started? Please help

Your not going to find them spending time on the computer.
Where they go sux, its hard and its a major pain in the azz.
Now go find them.
And stay in school so you don't get stuck working on this krap all your life like some of us.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 11:50 PM
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Re: Still cant get l98 motor started? Please help

No it's not hard its impossible because they arent visible for like 3 feet, then the loom breaks into 2 one goes towards battery, the other heads next to the firewall up under the distributor, and the injector wires loom branches into it aswell near the valve cover back. So i dont get how i can do it without knowing their location they should be hooked up at, you get what i mean?
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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 12:07 AM
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Re: Still cant get l98 motor started? Please help

Ok so after reading about a similar issue on a jeep forum (he had the l98 to) I discovered that the pin outs b1, and c16 should go into one wire and have a constant power supply, and pin b6 is a switched power source. So can wire the pins b1, and c16 together then run them to my battery positive with like 0gauge wire and a 100amp fuse. then if it runs pin b1 issnt the issue rite? or will it just start a fire or blow my ecm

EDIT: I just found out threw a diagram the pin out wire in a6 goes to the esc (eletronic spark control) and its connected to mine so its either of the other two wires so i can do what i said above rite?

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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 08:20 AM
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Re: Still cant get l98 motor started? Please help

I have told you the above several times. 0 gauge is way overkill . Yes you can tie the two together and jun them to a fuse block or inline fuse. If you wired accessory power to your new fuse box you can run a6 there hope you left in the buss.
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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 12:39 PM
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Re: Still cant get l98 motor started? Please help

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I have told you the above several times. 0 gauge is way overkill . Yes you can tie the two together and jun them to a fuse block or inline fuse. If you wired accessory power to your new fuse box you can run a6 there hope you left in the buss.
Ok well im going to go wire them up and see if it fixes the problem. Also you never said 0gauge is overkill because i never asked before, i just suggested using it since its going to go to ecm. Ill use like 12, or 16 then.
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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 01:27 PM
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Re: Still cant get l98 motor started? Please help

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Ok well im going to go wire them up and see if it fixes the problem. Also you never said 0gauge is overkill because i never asked before, i just suggested using it since its going to go to ecm. Ill use like 12, or 16 then.
Originally Posted by s10sbc350
Ok so after reading about a similar issue on a jeep forum (he had the l98 to) I discovered that the pin outs b1, and c16 should go into one wire and have a constant power supply, and pin b6 is a switched power source. So can wire the pins b1, and c16 together then run them to my battery positive with like 0gauge wire and a 100amp fuse. then if it runs pin b1 issnt the issue rite? or will it just start a fire or blow my ecm

EDIT: I just found out threw a diagram the pin out wire in a6 goes to the esc (eletronic spark control) and its connected to mine so its either of the other two wires so i can do what i said above rite?
Looks like you asked to me
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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 01:34 PM
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Re: Still cant get l98 motor started? Please help

This fuel injection crap is B.S I just hooked up all 3 wires the 2 orange together to the battery with fuse, then the pink/blk one to a switched power source the ignition fuse, and i had to remove the fuse line from the injectors and now the injectors arent getting 12volts from the ecm, or if i connect a wire and run it where it was so it makes no since, because they worked like they are now before i disconnected the fuse
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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 01:42 PM
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Re: Still cant get l98 motor started? Please help

Originally Posted by s10sbc350
This fuel injection crap is B.S I just hooked up all 3 wires the 2 orange together to the battery with fuse, then the pink/blk one to a switched power source the ignition fuse, and i had to remove the fuse line from the injectors and now the injectors arent getting 12volts from the ecm, or if i connect a wire and run it where it was so it makes no since, because they worked like they are now before i disconnected the fuse
The ecm does not give the injectors power
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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 02:16 PM
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Re: Still cant get l98 motor started? Please help

Ok its alive agin, lol the wire i tried hooking the njectors back up with was bad so i replaced and it worked, so now i just gotta neaten up those 3 ecm wires and it'll be ready. I also gotta change the oil do you know how much these tpi motors take?

Also thanks tuned p ill give you the extra $15 i said i would just message me your paypal account username, and ill send it with the ecm money later tonight.
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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 02:39 PM
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Re: Still cant get l98 motor started? Please help

Hey nevermind it's 5quarts and i have 5.2 lucky me
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Re: Still cant get l98 motor started? Please help

Don't worry about any extra buy your self some tools
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