Rev issues
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From: Fort Wayne, Indiana
Car: 1989 Firebird Trans Am
Engine: 355
Transmission: T56
Rev issues
So, I got the bird running, and it starts everytime now.
Heres the issue though, once started, it'll idle at 1k then shoot up to 3-4k on it's own until it seems, it warms up to about 180 *.
I have a ported intake, slp runners and pleumn. However, I don't think it's a vaccum issue because the bolts are torqued down correctly, in the correct order, and these are new gaskets.
My idle screw is adjusted forward, because at the factory setting, it will not idle. It will start, rev high and then die. Can I adjust the TPS sensor to fix this issue?
New TPS sensor, new o2 sensor, coolant sensor, adjustable fuel pressure reg. at 45psi, new ignition coil, plugs, and wires.
Heres the issue though, once started, it'll idle at 1k then shoot up to 3-4k on it's own until it seems, it warms up to about 180 *.
I have a ported intake, slp runners and pleumn. However, I don't think it's a vaccum issue because the bolts are torqued down correctly, in the correct order, and these are new gaskets.
My idle screw is adjusted forward, because at the factory setting, it will not idle. It will start, rev high and then die. Can I adjust the TPS sensor to fix this issue?
New TPS sensor, new o2 sensor, coolant sensor, adjustable fuel pressure reg. at 45psi, new ignition coil, plugs, and wires.
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From: Milwaukee
Car: 92 Firebird, 77 Trans Am SE, 86 Z28
Engine: 5.7 HSR, T/A 6.6, empty
Transmission: T-5, TH350, T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.08 posi, 3.23 posi, 3.23
Re: Rev issues
Did you reset the iac? Does it ever idle normal? Has the ecm been retuned?
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,093
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From: Milwaukee
Car: 92 Firebird, 77 Trans Am SE, 86 Z28
Engine: 5.7 HSR, T/A 6.6, empty
Transmission: T-5, TH350, T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.08 posi, 3.23 posi, 3.23
Re: Rev issues
Did these problems start after you put the intake on? Even though I'd think the maf would compensate for the changes it may not be enough. You may need a retune to get it right. Is it cammed as well? I would also suspect vacuum leaks but if it does idle normal when warm(which is at what rpm? and how rough?) then that's less likely a cause. You could make a simple homemade smoke machine, which is cheap and easy to do, to verify there are no vacuum leaks. If you really do have no leak I'd suspect cold operation settings in the tune.
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From: Fort Wayne, Indiana
Car: 1989 Firebird Trans Am
Engine: 355
Transmission: T56
Re: Rev issues
Tried smoke machine already, no leaks. I thought the ECU would learn and adjust but hasn't yet. Right now it idles at just under 1k, but I also adjusted the idle screw forward a lot. Was hoping I could adjust the TPS sensor and get it running okay by that. Anything else I could check? I'm going to replace the IAC because it's 26 years old now and could probably use it.
Wanted to advance the timing the other day, so I unplugged the est connector and started it, but it wouldn't stay running for me to get the light going.
Runs good once it has warmed up. Can post a video of running after it has warmed up.
Wanted to advance the timing the other day, so I unplugged the est connector and started it, but it wouldn't stay running for me to get the light going.
Runs good once it has warmed up. Can post a video of running after it has warmed up.
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From: Milwaukee
Car: 92 Firebird, 77 Trans Am SE, 86 Z28
Engine: 5.7 HSR, T/A 6.6, empty
Transmission: T-5, TH350, T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.08 posi, 3.23 posi, 3.23
The ecu doesn't do any learning to correct major changes. The maf system compensates since the air passing the sensor changes which is what it bases it's requirements to run.
The tps really only needs to be set to the correct voltage so the ecm knows that the throttle is closed. Moving it will make the ecm think the throttle is open farther or less than it is and adjust incorrectly from there. Better off correcting problems in the tune as opposed to falsely adjusting it.
You could also check the cts circuit. Not just the sensor, the whole circuit.
The tps really only needs to be set to the correct voltage so the ecm knows that the throttle is closed. Moving it will make the ecm think the throttle is open farther or less than it is and adjust incorrectly from there. Better off correcting problems in the tune as opposed to falsely adjusting it.
You could also check the cts circuit. Not just the sensor, the whole circuit.
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